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a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:43 pm
by Shifa
By their human slaves, of course. Lol
Seriously, it's interesting in comparison to the domestication of wolves into dogs.
http://theconversation.com/ancient-dna- ... orld-79584" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:45 pm
by Shifa
The original abstract is here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-017-0139" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:18 am
by User3246
Loka, You are very focused on cats! I LOVE it! XD Amazing article, and I look forward to my demon-inspired cat circle in the future! heheh!

Re: a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:00 am
by Shifa
I love to study the history of cats, so any new discoveries always pique my interest.

Re: a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:19 pm
by simara
A very cool and informative article. I admire your passion for our feline friends.

Re: a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:47 pm
by Eilana
I love this Loka and I love cats ^-^

I read once somewhere that cats chose to domesticate themselves, of course I can't find the article now... LOL

This part in the article you shared above ... I see what they are saying but not sure about it exactly ...

"Yet despite our long history of keeping pet cats and their popularity today, felines aren’t the easiest of animals to domesticate (as anyone who’s felt a cat’s cold shoulder might agree)."

Does that really mean they aren't domesticated? I thought that was just how cats are :lol:

Re: a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:30 pm
by Shifa
Eilana wrote:I love this Loka and I love cats ^-^

I read once somewhere that cats chose to domesticate themselves, of course I can't find the article now... LOL

This part in the article you shared above ... I see what they are saying but not sure about it exactly ...

"Yet despite our long history of keeping pet cats and their popularity today, felines aren’t the easiest of animals to domesticate (as anyone who’s felt a cat’s cold shoulder might agree)."

Does that really mean they aren't domesticated? I thought that was just how cats are :lol:
Dogs come from a pack mentality, and are generally more trainable as they are eager to please.
Y'know cats are more like "talk to the paw" and will continue to do naughty things no matter how many times you try to break them out of the habit! Lolol
Well cats can be trained of course but we've all experienced that independent nature and "cold shoulder." A dog will follow you around and sit by you, while a cat just goes about its business. And they can be real stubborn. Let me in, let me out, no I don't want to move off this book you're reading ... lol
Besides temperament, body shapes and fur patterns, cats haven't changed much from their wild counterparts, compared to the change from wolf to domestic dog. Most housecats can go back to living wild as long as they are healthy and have their claws (not that I encourage this). But try putting little toy dogs out on the street, they wouldn't last a minute.
I think, depending on the time period or the place, domestication would depend on how much the people coddled the cats at the time. At the most they were just vermin-catchers. In some places they were a source of pelts, and of course we know that some people still use them for food. Besides being spoiled in Ancient Egypt, I think it wasn't until about 18th century Europe when people started to really take a fancy to them as pets. But you also have the good luck cats of Japan and the beautiful coat pattern from Siam, though I can't remember when cats began to get popular in the East.

Re: a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:39 pm
by Eilana
Lokakisa wrote:
Eilana wrote:I love this Loka and I love cats ^-^

I read once somewhere that cats chose to domesticate themselves, of course I can't find the article now... LOL

This part in the article you shared above ... I see what they are saying but not sure about it exactly ...

"Yet despite our long history of keeping pet cats and their popularity today, felines aren’t the easiest of animals to domesticate (as anyone who’s felt a cat’s cold shoulder might agree)."

Does that really mean they aren't domesticated? I thought that was just how cats are :lol:
Dogs come from a pack mentality, and are generally more trainable as they are eager to please.
Y'know cats are more like "talk to the paw" and will continue to do naughty things no matter how many times you try to break them out of the habit! Lolol
Well cats can be trained of course but we've all experienced that independent nature and "cold shoulder." A dog will follow you around and sit by you, while a cat just goes about its business. And they can be real stubborn. Let me in, let me out, no I don't want to move off this book you're reading ... lol
Besides temperament, body shapes and fur patterns, cats haven't changed much from their wild counterparts, compared to the change from wolf to domestic dog. Most housecats can go back to living wild as long as they are healthy and have their claws (not that I encourage this). But try putting little toy dogs out on the street, they wouldn't last a minute.
I think, depending on the time period or the place, domestication would depend on how much the people coddled the cats at the time. At the most they were just vermin-catchers. In some places they were a source of pelts, and of course we know that some people still use them for food. Besides being spoiled in Ancient Egypt, I think it wasn't until about 18th century Europe when people started to really take a fancy to them as pets. But you also have the good luck cats of Japan and the beautiful coat pattern from Siam, though I can't remember when cats began to get popular in the East.
Thank you! That's amazing Loka, that is exactly what I wasn't getting LOL I was like ... wait ... but ..cats are cats.... I see what they meant now by domestication.

That's really interesting to think about. I've always been more of a cat person, though I do love all animals I will admit now having a dog has been more challenging for me than cat ownership :lol: it's really true too about dogs not lasting a minute. I could set things up for my cats and just have someone come check them while I was away but dogs ... I can barely leave for the day and can only be gone so many hours unless I have someone to check on the dog. Totally new concept for me.

Your knowledge of cat history is amazing :devillust:

ROFL @ no I don't want to move off this book you're reading. I have one exactly like that

Re: a new DNA study on how cats moved about the world

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:12 pm
by Shifa
I happened to find this article debating on whether cats are truly domesticated or not - http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/ ... mesticated" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;