Satan and Suns

A few days ago I was cast down when I looked some youtube videos.
I was watching some Demon videos. People who worked with demons in a positive way.
But Youtube also represents Anti-Demon videos. Like people who plays with the Ouija board.
They ask the spirit "Give us a sign". The spirit doing it by moving an object and they feaked out and say it was a demon.
First of all, how do you know it was a demon? And second, you ask for it. The spirit didn`t attack you.
It just moving an object.
It`s the same with "Attacked by an Succubs". I belief this videos are not real and was make up for attention for their canal.
And than you got the Christians. "The Devil is every where!"
Christians who sees conspiracy theory every where.
The government controlled by Satanist. Or Demons in Toys or Videosgames. And the Satanic Panic (What was debunked).
Religious people are stupid and dangerous.
And they act like damn Terminators. They can't be bargained with, they can't be reasoned with.
And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are convinced or dead.
Don`t get me wrong. I talk about Religious people. Not about people who belief in something.
Like a divine something or a deity who created everything. No I mean people who sees the world dogmatic.
When you looked at other cultures or religions, you also got the good and the bad guys.
But there it makes more sense. In this cases it`s a battle between gods. God versus God, who will win?
Two equal powers fight with each other.
But in the Jewish, Christian and Islamic mythology Satan is not a God. He is considered as a fallen Angel, a Demon or a Eblis.
My question is, why should someone plays a game, when he knows at the beginning that he cannot win?
In this mythology Satan is not a god so he cannot win against Jehovah. He will always lose.
When you ask this question a Christian, he will answer (I guess) " Well the Devil is dumb"
Really? All the time Christians are telling us "The devil is smart. He is behind every corner. He is the greatest trickster who every exists".
Yeah. But he never realized that he never can win? After all this thousands of years he never realized that?
Are you fucking kidding me?

And when it comes to evolution, the creationist try to debunk it.
But let say evolution is not real, it`s not an argument that Christianity automatically true.
Even if they can debunk evolution, they still have to prove that their God is the real deal.
From all the over 5000 Gods that was worshippt in human history, it can only be Jehovah?
Well, Christianity has a Messiah, has prophets, has miracles, has a virgin birth, has a resurrection of the dead.
And is the biggest religion on earth.
Guess what. Other religions have that too. And their stuff is more impressive.
In a few years Islam will be the biggest religion in the world.
"Jesus can save you!" Save? From what? A Hell that Jehovah created? Did that means that Jesus saves us from God?
Remember, in this mythology Satan is not a God. He cannot created Hell.
But there is also a funny thing about it. Not only we go to Hell. Christians also blaming each other.
We have Roman Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Protestants and so on.
They all point their fingers on each other and say more or less that the other Christian groupes are also doomed.
Or near death experience. Some Christians see Jesus after death.
But people from other religions see their religious Saints. Buddha, Krishna and so on.
"Oh in this case it`s Satan. He pretend to be a religious figure."
But in this mythology Satan owns your Soul already. Why should Satan send you back to life?
Your dead, you followed the wrong rules, your Soul already belongs to him.
I`m not a fan of religion, except theist Satanism, Luciferianism, Wiccan or Voodoo. As far as I know, they don`t have any dogma.
Their is no authority.
So to get in a better mood, I saw some Anti-Religion videos. And I want to share some links here.
Most of the people who uploads the videos are Atheist, but they still have a good point.
Atheist think we devilworshippers are stupid as well, but I can life with that.
They don`t blame Demons and are not threatening us.
These videos are informative. You have to oversee that they are Atheist.

The Jewish and Christian God
A History of God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbk ... e=youtu.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Evolution of Genesis
https://youtu.be/FLviKiEuj30" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Exploring Religions With Science And History
https://youtu.be/leP8t4bxHUg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jesus
Bill Maher on religion. Really funny!!
https://youtu.be/OKwcSDWmQSM?t=5m40s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Evolution of Jesus in the Bible
https://youtu.be/XKAHoYCWXF8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mythical Man
https://youtu.be/cAEghxnK3UU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jesus wasn't Jesus
https://youtu.be/6lqC8fvIspY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Josephus On Jesus
https://youtu.be/mQzZPGBMmVc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lord Satan
The Evolution of Satan in the Bible
https://youtu.be/j-gbOnWj6Mw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Origins of Satan
https://youtu.be/61eeKakLBbU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Give the Devil His Due
https://youtu.be/XbiADYVORGE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Satan Through The Ages
https://youtu.be/-D5Ce4INp9U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Religious Demands and the Damages
The Ten Commandments
https://youtu.be/36g3auOm9HA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Damn Commandments
https://youtu.be/8u3z69YpLx0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Christianity Is Terrorism - I Was A Christian Terrorist
https://youtu.be/9qQQNZOzFo8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
IF GOD ASKED
https://youtu.be/6e5kWetmF54" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Ignored Bible
https://youtu.be/6HxP8EUGRmE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Islamic Sexuality A Survey Of Evil
https://youtu.be/ms9NrdiJHRA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Heina Dadabhoy: Sex and Islam (Bit funny)
https://youtu.be/np2U3K6ZQT8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Why Religion causes brain damage
https://youtu.be/9AJU49PpHqo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How Religion Harms Education
https://youtu.be/RAXU464sy6o" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Inequity of Religious Freedom
https://youtu.be/vrzyqG7EogY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Religion Reverses Everything
https://youtu.be/vquOuWx6NlA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Big Picture and a Petty Deity
https://youtu.be/YeNsE5v3xfk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Oldest Quran Found
https://youtu.be/KxCXYxDsOlU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Satanic Panic
Conspiracies: Satanic Panic
https://youtu.be/42tCr_uXQBo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dungeons & Dragons: Satanic Panic
https://youtu.be/ATUpSPj0x-c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Deception of a Generation - Demonic Toys (He-Man, really??? Thats blasphemy!!!!)
https://youtu.be/Hnjdq32u-MU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Explaining CTR's Satanic Panic Tactics and More
https://youtu.be/dnshtWfSaWc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pat Robertson: Beware Video & Board Game Demons
https://youtu.be/HqDIKe_OTWg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pokémon Go Is Demonic Spiritual Warfare
https://youtu.be/cPuPqObRQgc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Monster Energy Drinks Are Satanic
https://youtu.be/hZUH9wlv52k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Satanic Temple Trolls Christians Over School Religion
https://youtu.be/Kbwh20xU7qQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ban Satanic Protests, Because Freedom
https://youtu.be/DgM7hi43XZw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
TV Brainwashes For Satanic Killings
https://youtu.be/KeQpvrJvm4Y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Satanism's continued Fight Against Witch-Hunters
https://youtu.be/0gY24iCzBxw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Stupidity in Religions
Top 10 Things The Bible Forbids Besides Homosexuality
https://youtu.be/A6cb0GNc1WY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MUSLIM LOGIC FAIL #1 - Adam Saleh Miracles
https://youtu.be/3ji0V6Ao-C8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Top 10 Controversial Quran Verses
https://youtu.be/R-oR1WIMtLE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Top 10 Unscientific Quran Verses
https://youtu.be/7GfdOjyLwGw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Islam: The Fastest Growing Religion
https://youtu.be/RJAL6xgViqg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Top 10 Most Shocking Religious Scandals
https://youtu.be/mZGtr8EN2dE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Christian 'Anti-Porn' Activist Arrested For Sex Crimes
https://youtu.be/zyDCA00BXbM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Religious Figures Triggers Fundamentalist Snowflakes
https://youtu.be/ZZTwB5e0U50" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Anti-Masturbation Campaign
https://youtu.be/Ueuz0-Rnd5c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Gives Tips On Casting Out Demons
https://youtu.be/UHZU8udWbM4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A Loving God Does Genocide
https://youtu.be/Kp3DN3l43ck" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Catholic Leader Had 131,000 Child Porn Pics
https://youtu.be/leEvozDXVqQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wiccan Going To Hell
https://youtu.be/Cyv2DawD148" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
God's Law Above Constitution
https://youtu.be/1tos53QAwlo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pathetic Prophetic Failure
https://youtu.be/j9RN8UgBBs4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Demons: "Sometimes They'll Talk To You"
https://youtu.be/wGEWAQs-af4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Halloween Is 'A Night When The Devil Rejoices
https://youtu.be/QPlVy85mRAs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Demons Are Real' & On Halloween 'We Worship Satan'
https://youtu.be/zQ6BLaLyFzQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Rock Music Used To 'Summon Demons'
https://youtu.be/aD0cKXfQALk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Maybe Your Dead Baby Was The Next Hitler
https://youtu.be/t5ekyLKTbuY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Internet 'Covens' Will Curse Your Fetus
https://youtu.be/DvoePyL_R98" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Beware Demonic Ouija Boards
https://youtu.be/gpD1BRvq73o" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Guess Who's Behind Abortion? The Devil
https://youtu.be/dAizKEmaLjw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Porn Gives Demons Permission To Get You
https://youtu.be/QRrR3PpS8xc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Robin Williams Was Demon Possessed
https://youtu.be/lpryi8ffdJI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For the links alone, this post should totally be stickied.

-Raven

good links

any believe, not jsut religious, can be stupid and dangeros

Not saying religion is that..... but no matter what there is always good and bad. But then I want to add the UGLY too.

Good
People apply the teaching, use it to practice in their daily life and discover the meaning of creation, change, destruction, life, death, immortal/spirit/god and universe.

Bad
People use religion and god name to gain power, money, fame.

Ugly
People follow blindly and do without thinking. True stupid born here.

It's just ignorant people.

Something I read recently, I think it was a bumper sticker. (Of course)
"Religion is for people who are afraid of Hell. Spirituality is for people who have been there"

And thank you very, very much for the links and all the work you put into your post.

You are focusing on a particular stream of religion - christianity, whose very dogma sought to make evil any and all other religions and gods that came before it. They are not alone in this practice. Mythology is your friend here to understand the evolution of RHP and LHP and the evolution of what humans have determined to be god at various points. If you can cut through the bullshit, there are some good life lessons to be found in the texts of many religions including christianity. I know some great people who are christian, do good community work and make the world a better place. I have no problem with that. How many demonologists or satanists do you know do community work?

The issue is the people who become fanatical and believe there is only one god, their god, there is only one religion, their religion. Then you end up with batshit crazy people like extreme Islamists, for example, and all the mad horrible things humans are capable of come to pass in the name of their (insert name of religion) god.

In another forum I know people who I respect as experienced magicians who use psalms as spells to great effect. Others who talk to the angels about the current application of christianity and the angels are appalled at the modern interpretation and actions that occur under the name of god, largely by stupid, ignorant close minded people. I have worked with angels, and they have some amazing powers, but can be just as much malevolent as an angry demon. They don't tell you how an angel can fuck with you for their own entertainment in the bible, that's for sure.

Ultimately, it is the man made constructs of dogma created in the name of the spirits that is the cause of so much hatred and awfulness in the world.

Being able to think for yourself is the most important step forward in terms of your own spiritual development. This separates you from the masses. Most humans still have a strong desire for herd mentality, being part of the group is safe and reinforces your reality. It takes courage to say, hang on a minute, I smell bullshit and walk away to find your own path.

I also am in the spiritual camp and will not be part of an organised religion. This includes alternative group religions, like wicca. Try practicing wicca in a large group coven and see how quickly the personalities involved make it all about the drama rather than spiritual learning.

Learn how to conjure and communicate with spirits, demons, meet up with the planetary intelligences, who are beyond religions. They have much to teach. And never ever stop learning.

Calin wrote:How many demonologists or satanists do you know do community work?

In my thoughts. Is it compulsory they must do community work?

dragynraken wrote:

Calin wrote:How many demonologists or satanists do you know do community work?

In my thoughts. Is it compulsory they must do community work?

That is your take home from my post? No, it is not compulsory for anyone to do community work regardless of faith. The point of that part of my comment was to refute the statement that religious people are stupid and dangerous. It is like saying that all people who work with demons are evil, horrible people who wish harm to everyone. Many religious people and organisations do good work helping those who cannot help themselves, like people who are homeless due to severe mental illness, or women and children escaping domestic violence etc.

Seek the whole truth.