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When you started spirit keeping has anyone experienced attack’s ? Kind of like other spirits coming through and messing with you.

Like playing music to rupture your ear drums?

Pulling your hair?

It could be anything that is a form of harassment. I thought it was one of my guides trying to connect with me but it was the opposite.

I’m not sure if I’m wide open now. I am also working on shielding to prevent these episodes. Just seeing everyone’s experiences and tactics.


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Not like that. When you say music, do you mean a loud ringing in your ears? Because that is something different. It is not an attack. If you are truly hearing loud music that hurts your ears and feeling your hair pulled. you might want to look elsewhere for an answer. I personally have not experienced such things. If you are under attack perhaps you need to stregthen your shields.

Nycto did a post on spiritual attack. I do not have time to find it, but I do suggest you look it up and read it. Often people think they are under spiritual attack when they are not. Her post should help you determine if you are or are not

I hope I have assisted you. Good luck :)devil:

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https://www.satanandsuns.com/viewtopic.php?f=127&t=5905

So, one of the things I've noticed a lot about new people coming into the spirit/entity keeping world is that they do not understand that using conjures and magick spells cast by someone else does NOT negate your own responsibility. Using someone else's magickal working for your own means that you are practicing magick, because you are using magick to change your life. It doesn't matter to the universe who does the original working, YOU are the one using it to alter the world.

That makes you a practitioner, even by proxy.

Which means that the rules for practicing apply to you.

If you use magick, you open yourself to the metaphysical world. That means that a practice of cleansing, clearing, warding, and shielding your space, and yourself, is vital... because once you invite magick into your live, via entities, spirits, or energies, you are seen, and if you don't defend yourself, you are fair game.

Akelta does a really good job at covering this, because she conjures demons and one of the things that's important to people on this path is responsibility and safe practice. However, I've noticed that a LOT of sellers in the metaphysical world do NOT cover this.

You are a practitioner, whether you meant to be one or not... and you need to learn the skills necessary to protect yourself now. There are a lot of threads on this forum that cover the basics of grounding, centering, shielding and warding. There are also links to pdf files that Akelta, Yllidra, and Sartre have written which are more complete on those topics. A search should dig them up for you.

I wish you luck...
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Thanks Nefer and Nycto

I think I bought something from a store and practice things and opened myself up to other things. You are so right.
The metaphysical stores do not tell you this. I had to learn the hard way.

No Nefer it was harassment/attack, I know the difference. I wasn’t scared. I felt myself get angry like where was my companions. I felt after I got angry is that I need stronger shields and not be fair game.

I told my spirit family I’m taking a break from them and practicing until I learn how to protect myself.


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Shielding works wonders. Actually you should not take a break from your companions, as they can help you with working on shielding. This may sound odd but this is what I do. I asked them to "attack" me and I put up my Shields. I got to the point where I have three companions at once attacking me, one of them being a king and they cannot penetrate my shield. So if you work with them it makes it easier to know when you need to strengthen your Shield.

Obviously you would start with one companion hitting you with light force, then increase the force. After they can not pass anything through, ask another companion to join in with the first one. So on and so fourth

Also I'm not sure what you bought from the metaphysical store, but you should always cleanse items that you purchase. I'm not sure if I misunderstood you I'm not sure if you bought something and brought something home or if you just brought something home from there I cannot work all. I apologize I am multitasking right now.

This is just my opinion and my experience. It worked for me so I thought I would share with you. Best of luck :devilgrin:

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Nefer wrote:
Shielding works wonders. Actually you should not take a break from your companions, as they can help you with working on shielding. This may sound odd but this is what I do. I asked them to "attack" me and I put up my Shields. I got to the point where I have three companions at once attacking me, one of them being a king and they cannot penetrate my shield. So if you work with them it makes it easier to know when you need to strengthen your Shield.

Obviously you would start with one companion hitting you with light force, then increase the force. After they can not pass anything through, ask another companion to join in with the first one. So on and so fourth

Also I'm not sure what you bought from the metaphysical store, but you should always cleanse items that you purchase.


Ok, I agree with everything Nefer says here. Always cleanse anything that you purchase that is magickal or metaphysical. Just like, if you were to buy something like gemstones that you planned to use for their metaphysical effects, you would cleanse them before working with them. I also cleanse certain other things, like sometimes food, but mostly antiques and the like. Anything a lot of people have touched. It's like cleaning an apple before you take a bite... it's just sensible.

Secondly, taking a break from your companions is ok if you need a break from them, but in this situation, you can ask them to help you cleanse and protect yourself while you learn, and when you get to a good spot, start having them help you polish your skills in the way that Nefer discusses. Admittedly when you're first learning about shielding, you really need to just practice until you have the theory down, practice until shielding is automatic and you can keep them up without thinking, but once you are at that point (and it doesn't take long at all to get there because shielding is actually natural to humans because of our tribal and herding natures), then having your companions test your shielding to help you hone that skill is really helpful.

You can also have them help to test other skills. For example, centering - part of centering involves aligning all three of your "bodies." If you are only centering your awareness on your power (centering to the solar plexus or whichever chakra is your personal center of power, or centering into the tan tien) then you're not actually centered and some kinds of attack, including ones from within yourself, can throw you out of balance energetically, emotionally, mentally, and magickally, so having your spiritual helpers "shove" you when you're centered, to test that - in fact having them shove you when you're not expecting it, can make centering eventually automatic and permanent - nothing throws you off balance. This is REALLY important as a skill.

Having your spiritual family test any skill you're working on is always a good decision.
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That is one thing I like about demons...they will help you on a bunch of different levels, but they are not going to do it ALL for you! In fact, as I go along, I find my demons are doing less and less for me, as I become capable of defending and cleansing myself. Don't feel bad if you seem to run into problems and other people seem to have smooth sailing. Look at it from the perspective that you are getting an education and an experience no one else is! For instance, I recently got attacked by something extremely powerful, that could attack in my dreams, and defended itself using LOVE energy! It showed me some inconsistencies and weak points in my shields, and also a weak point in my mind and spirit that could be improved with more shadow work. The big thing is to not blame yourself for having these weak spots, because everyone has them! It also showed me my demons at work protecting me (very grateful, Bane my Hellborn Brother!), and a little about how they do it, and how I can help them do it. It ALSO showed me how far I have come. Maybe a year ago this would have devastated me, but I am a lot emotionally and mentally tougher now. A lot more aware and alert, too. Keep at it, and be aware of your resources: books, friends, the forum, companions, and the Demon Lords.

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im not new to spirit keeping but i know the attacks feeling


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Nefer wrote:
Shielding works wonders. Actually you should not take a break from your companions, as they can help you with working on shielding. This may sound odd but this is what I do. I asked them to "attack" me and I put up my Shields. I got to the point where I have three companions at once attacking me, one of them being a king and they cannot penetrate my shield. So if you work with them it makes it easier to know when you need to strengthen your Shield.

Obviously you would start with one companion hitting you with light force, then increase the force. After they can not pass anything through, ask another companion to join in with the first one. So on and so fourth

Also I'm not sure what you bought from the metaphysical store, but you should always cleanse items that you purchase. I'm not sure if I misunderstood you I'm not sure if you bought something and brought something home or if you just brought something home from there I cannot work all. I apologize I am multitasking right now.

This is just my opinion and my experience. It worked for me so I thought I would share with you. Best of luck :devilgrin:


I never thought of having my companions help with my shielding. That’s a good idea. I’m still working on my third eye to connect with them more clearly but I had some breakthroughs. You are correct not to give up but to keep communicating with them.


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That is one thing I like about demons...they will help you on a bunch of different levels, but they are not going to do it ALL for you! In fact, as I go along, I find my demons are doing less and less for me, as I become capable of defending and cleansing myself. Don't feel bad if you seem to run into problems and other people seem to have smooth sailing. Look at it from the perspective that you are getting an education and an experience no one else is! For instance, I recently got attacked by something extremely powerful, that could attack in my dreams, and defended itself using LOVE energy! It showed me some inconsistencies and weak points in my shields, and also a weak point in my mind and spirit that could be improved with more shadow work. The big thing is to not blame yourself for having these weak spots, because everyone has them! It also showed me my demons at work protecting me (very grateful, Bane my Hellborn Brother!), and a little about how they do it, and how I can help them do it. It ALSO showed me how far I have come. Maybe a year ago this would have devastated me, but I am a lot emotionally and mentally tougher now. A lot more aware and alert, too. Keep at it, and be aware of your resources: books, friends, the forum, companions, and the Demon Lords.


Thanks for your encouragement SH. I did feel kind of bad but you know someone must of been around because when my hair was being pulled. I felt an inner strength and I just wasn’t scared. My companions may have allowed this to happen to strengthen me. They may have given me some spunk. After the incident, I’m like why don’t you show me who you are so I can kick your ass. I was surprised. I said that.


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