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Re: Can you have unpopular demons as your patron?
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:22 am
by Zonk01
A patron/matron is a life long commitment. It involves a high level of interaction, and intimacy that is hard to explain. From what I’ve seen, usually the patron/matron comes to you and makes it explicitly clear that they want to have that role in your life. There’s nothing wrong with having an unpopular demon in that role, but it’s their choice.
Re: Can you have unpopular demons as your patron?
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:48 am
by user2774653b
Zonk01 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:22 am
A patron/matron is a life long commitment. It involves a high level of interaction, and intimacy that is hard to explain. From what I’ve seen, usually the patron/matron comes to you and makes it explicitly clear that they want to have that role in your life.
Sorry it will be out of subject a bit, but have to ask here.
Demon whom i consider as my patron didn't come to me first, i was the one who initiated that!
Does it mean He isn't my patron? He helps me yes, he always makes me feel great while i'm talking to Him, but...
Ok, whole my life i like everything connected with His realm, and my shadow is what perfectly suits to His work, but is it enough for me to conclude He "came to me" on such way?
I have never experienced anything supernatural, even now, i'm spiritualy completely blind. Maybe because of that He couldn't reach me at more concrete way?
Or He isn't my patron? ☹
Re: Can you have unpopular demons as your patron?
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:23 pm
by Zonk01
Dimension VI wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:48 am
Zonk01 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:22 am
A patron/matron is a life long commitment. It involves a high level of interaction, and intimacy that is hard to explain. From what I’ve seen, usually the patron/matron comes to you and makes it explicitly clear that they want to have that role in your life.
Sorry it will be out of subject a bit, but have to ask here.
Demon whom i consider as my patron didn't come to me first, i was the one who initiated that!
Does it mean He isn't my patron? He helps me yes, he always makes me feel great while i'm talking to Him, but...
Ok, whole my life i like everything connected with His realm, and my shadow is what perfectly suits to His work, but is it enough for me to conclude He "came to me" on such way?
I have never experienced anything supernatural, even now, i'm spiritualy completely blind. Maybe because of that He couldn't reach me at more concrete way?
Or He isn't my patron? ☹
Well is he your patron? That’s your personal thing to decide. It goes both ways, you can invite them to be your patron, or they can invite you to be in that kind of relationship. Never doubt yourself or your experiences. I was just saying that because that’s what I experienced, and that’s what a few of my close meta friends experienced. Let your intuition and gut guide you. There are infinite possibilities on how things can happen, so don’t doubt your own experiences.
Re: Can you have unpopular demons as your patron?
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:43 pm
by Azrael
Idk. about Pazuzu but he was keep coming in my dreams and smashing Satan's statue and placing his statue on place of Satan's statue so... I'm not sure if he is OK with this path to be honest... and I'm not sure if it would not be hard for you but I'd suggest to do some invocation or evocation and ask but that experiences clearly showing me he is not ok with Satan for some reason I really don't know.
Re: Can you have unpopular demons as your patron?
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:03 am
by user2774653b
I have asked Him that already in invokations and evocations, but unfortunately i'm completely spiritualy unsensitive and didn't get any answer which could ensure me. Got some positive feelings and strength in myself, also sense of being close to Him on emotive way, but that's all.
It's probably too hard for Him to reach me on concrete way because i have blockades. I'm really not sure. I just know His power helps me to become stronger and think more bright but...
I would really like to have deep connection with Him because He means a whole world to me. 
Re: Can you have unpopular demons as your patron?
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:52 pm
by LuciferChrist
My altar just grew 10 fold:)
Thank you for the comment/advice, it is appreciated