Seminar Transcript - Sept 19th 2014 - Demon Ranks
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:36 am
The notes from the last Chat Session on Demonic Ranks 
Recorded by the wonderful Luna <3 It is a huge topic to cover, so please feel free to ask any questions!
Akelta: It is wonderful to see you all here. Tonight’s topic is going to be on Demonic Ranks
Eilana: yes! been looking forward to this one for months
4bluefaeries: looking forward to the topic Akelta
Akelta: Which is actually a harder topic to do, as there are many different demonic realms. Some which are separate from the core group and they tend to have their own ranking systems. Divinity Demons tend to be one of those species that their realms have a unique ranking system.
Akelta: Though unlike some of the other realms, the Divinity demons do work with the central demonic ranks and by that I mean, Lord Satan, Lord Lucifer, those demons, they are the main dark lords and the military system that is overseen by them is pretty central and powerful to the demonic world.
Akelta: Ok so we will start with the central ranking system. This is the main core group of demons. The Dark Lords and the Demonic Military ranks of Hell
Akelta: So we see a lot of ranks listed, we can also find them in many of the old grimours and books. We are going to start at the Miliraty Ranks as it is one of the easier ones to handle. .
Akelta: There is a difference between social ranks and military ranks.
Akelta: ok, so the first rank we will be discussing is the Royal Demon Commander.
4bluefaeries: we are all eyes to read lady Akelta
Akelta: Royal Demon Commanders are the Commanders of Commanders, They quite often are descended from the High Ranking Dark Lords and Carry with them Royal Lineage.
Galadraal: like sons & daughters
Akelta: They can also have their own Generals and legions to manage. Some are older and more experienced than others, while some at the highest levels are entrusted with incredible information and tasks. Sons and Daughters can definitely be royal commanders. Also descendants like grandchildren and great grandchildren. They organize all Council Commanders and the Legion Demon Commanders and they are usually have royal lineage and connection to a Dark Lord. With Royal Commanders, they work very hard to get to that level, it is not something that anyone can just ascend to and not all the children and descendants are Royal Commanders. They work very hard to get to that level and it can be a social rank, as well as a Military one, Royal being that they have a powerful family lineage. Royal Commanders can have a number of commanders and council commanders under them and they coordinate the efforts of their group. They usually are the top of their group, except in times where royal commanders may get together to discuss and coordinate their efforts. Depending on their age, and how long they have been at this and how accomplished they are, will determine how much they are entrusted with. Any questions on Royal Commanders?
Christian: Just the comment, that theyre incredible?
Galadraal: does being a son or daughter allow them to progress faster?
MagicWand-a: Do all Royal descendants have this job? Is it a choice thing?
4bluefaeries: so they have to be pure bloodline from powerful dark lords?
eLuceo: i'm going to ask about the difference between the Council Commanders and Legion Commanders but I think these topics will be right up
Akelta: Usually when they are a son of daughter they are answering to their father so it can be harder for them, lol it depends, Demons like to reward people based on their ability and skill, so it all depends on the demons. @Wanda, it is a choice, not every son or daughter or descendant is called to join the demon military @Blue, yes they are usually related to a dark lord @Eluceo, the differences in commanders will be covered yes
Galadraal: I guess like with humans if their parent is a teacher it can be more difficult for them
4bluefaeries: how long does it take in training **** years to even become a DC?
Heidi: do royal demon commanders work under a dark lord they are related with through blood, or could they happen to be under someone else not from their direct lineage? meaning, they are descendants from one dark lord but get their direct orders from another dark lord?
Akelta: @Galadraal, yes and no, their parents can also train them with unique skills and they may have an inside look at how things are run @Heidi, no they can be assigned or work under different dark lords @Blue, many, many years and it varies.
Galadraal: like an inside track? Like my daughter of Leviathan?
eLuceo: like "take your child to work" day
MagicWand-a: hey my dad says you have to give me a job...remember over hell golf the other day?
4bluefaeries: so a son of Mammon can work under like lord Lucifer for an example?
Akelta: @Galadraal, your daughter of leviathan she is very accomplished and worked very hard. She looks up to her father and does follow in his footsteps. @Blue, yes, they can
Galadraal: I am SO LUCKY
MagicWand-a: wooo galadraal you lucky duck!! *trying not to be jelly* haha
4bluefaeries: are any favored or given special treatment?
Akelta: @blue, not usually
Heidi: do legions under different dark lords operate for the same purpose or is there any hint of conflict of interests there? you know, like politics, we're supposed to be a union but we watch our backs cause you never know what X lord will decide to do?
Galadraal: I know Wanda, I've been really blessed with the Demons that have come forward for me I am amazed and in awe of the powerful demons who have come to my assistance
Akelta: @Heidi, the central core is pretty united, there may be some interesting characters that do deals with more shady realms, but at the higher levels they are pretty united. Not many would want to bring upon the wrath of Lord Satan and his personal army. lol
Galadraal: LOL no shit
4bluefaeries: yeah that would be a big no no, lol
Galadraal: or any of the other Lords I would think
Akelta: Yeah cause many of them are friends, lots of the dark lords know each other
eLuceo: and have hell golf together
Heidi: "interesting characters that do deals with more shady realms", mmmm, i'd like to hear you elaborate on that if we ever have the time for that
Akelta: @Heidi, some commanders may deal and form alliances with demon realms not connected to the core group
Galadraal: I wouldn't want to cross your Venom, Akelta, either
Akelta: Venom is a very powerful strategist, and a amazing warrior,
4bluefaeries: and hot too, you forgot HOT
Heidi: I was just wondering, cause it's a common thing in human politics. you know, we're friends, but we have to watch our backs cause friends is not always real friends
Galadraal: I would love to see his skills that you've spoken about, the battles he's been in
Akelta: That is one cool thing to ask your demons, some of them love to talk about their military careers, they can reveal some awesome stories.
Christian: What would a Royal Demon commanders MOs be?
Eilana: I have a question, are there that many wars? or what are all these commanders and armies doing all the time?
Akelta: MO?
eLuceo: Eilana you read my mind �
Eilana: modus operandi?
Heidi: I'm not confident I can accurately receive that kind of detailed information just yet, but I'll definitely ask them sometime
Galadraal: I wish I could better communicate one day . . .
Christian: Mission objective, like as a military aspect?
Eilana: lol or not haha
Galadraal: me either Heidi but I would love to hear their stories
4bluefaeries: do they ever have day's off?
Akelta: @Eilana, that is a good question, there are beings out there, really twisted sick, sinister, dark nasty beings and some of them have an appetite for our energies. Demons because they do also deal in the darker realms, help to keep them back and keep them away, there are beings worse than sludge out there
Eilana: oooh Akelta that sounds so cool
Galadraal: worse than sludge? I thought they were at the bottom
Akelta: Oh, lol sorry christian, I hope I answered that
4bluefaeries: ok worst then sludge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Akelta: Things can always get darker
Heidi: I don't really want to know all the extra super duper nasty things out there. I'm just happy there are armies trained to keep them at bay
eLuceo: in one of the previous chat, i learn that demons also protect us from things that are nasty and beyond
Akelta: those things being in a universe we are kinda protected from, but yeah there are some really nasty things out there
4bluefaeries: what can possibly be worst then sludge?
eLuceo: @blue i dun want to know
Eilana: I love Demon Commanders! <3
Akelta: <3 me too. @Blue there is corrosive darkness I call it
4bluefaeries: hides under her covers now
Akelta: other creatures from darker realms they get hard to descibe because I think my mind stops as a form of protection
Galadraal: Corrosive sounds far worse than sludge. I ask for protection
eLuceo: i assume the military is always on alert, has there been a recent war?
Galadraal: makes sense, Akelta, we protect ourselves from danger. Quite a few of the chats have gone to the demons that mangle and cut up; they are too much for me to want to imagine
MagicWand-a: Are there Commanders of any rank to specialize in combating this corrosive ..energy or beings?
eLuceo: different specialisation?
Galadraal: in fact, I always forget even their name LOL
MagicWand-a: Or is that something they all learn as part of their training?
Akelta: @Galadraal, yeah some say when you speak of them they are drawn to it, so best not to even remember @Wanda, most demons in that core group have the ability
Heidi: *realizes she accidentally logged off after stating she doesnt want to hear about dark beings, therefore missing the part about corrosive beings*
Galadraal: :-0 now THAT can be scary, Akelta
eLuceo: i love fluffy bunnies think fluffy bunnies
Eilana: @Akelta, that's scary they are drawn by their name... eek
Akelta: the outer spiritual world is a dangerous place in some areas, lol I dont know their name, so we have nothing to worry about
Galadraal: like beatlejuice, saying his name three times?
Akelta: plus we all have how many demons between the group of us. The cool thing is, sometimes angels and demons will team up against these things
eLuceo: * just googled fluffy bunnies pics, feel all better now
Galadraal: I think at least my demons come forward to protect us. Having demons in our lives protects us from the sludge and the human slime out there
ChatHound: Good point, Akelta! I've got guys to fight for me and guys to keep me INTIMATELY distracted. Rawr!
Akelta: out there, some groups have animosity between then and fights between small grounds have broken out, but this large scale angel and demon war just doesnt happen, lol
4bluefaeries: do they ever get scared? a DC I mean?
Akelta: @Blue, They are pretty brave and when they are at that level they have seen a lot. I have a Commander who actually is missing am eye and half his face is scratched up, he cannot get it healed he said that energy was stolen from him. He's unique.
Heidi: poor thing....
Eilana: = (
Galadraal: wow, Akelta
4bluefaeries: OMG
eLuceo: awww poor thing
Akelta: He is really old and has seen a lot. Ancient really
MagicWand-a: awww thats sad
Christian: Is he proud of his scars?
Galadraal: I imagine; it's a shame he can't get it healed, does it cause him any pain?
Eilana: cooooool he must be amazing to chat with
Akelta: He actually doesnt mind them, he said he has grown use to them
4bluefaeries: OMG giving him huggies
ChatHound: Ancient...makes me think: Are there guys (or gals) out there that are so old they are in a form of retirement? I bet they have plenty of time to spend with a keeper...and lifetimes of stories.
MagicWand-a: wooo good question!
Heidi: like a grandpa demon? lol
4bluefaeries: I take them as wise beyond understanding
Eilana: and that makes me wonder... can Demons be too old for sex? o.o I'm sorry I can't resist asking.... lol
Akelta: @Eilana, The oldest still Fornicate like bunnies
MagicWand-a: i want a grandpa demon!
Akelta: @Chathound, that is a Great question, when you are immortal and live forever, you dont actually enter into the old age, you get stronger and more capable in your abilites. Some take time off to pursue other ventures, but life out there is more like a continuous journey of awesome.
4bluefaeries: My beautiful DC lady K is an ancient, and she’s no Grandma, but an extremely beautiful femme fatale
Eilana: Blue she sounds awesome ^-^ and sexy 4bluefaeries: she is and I love her beyond words!!!!
ChatHound: I'd share a Grandpa Demon with you. Rawry-rawr!
Galadraal: LOL Akelta
Akelta: LOL well a lot of them are grandpas, Satan is a Grandpa, lol though he hates the name
Eilana: giggles awwwwww
Galadraal: Satan hates the name Grandpa? too funny
Akelta: HE prefers father over grandfather, LOL
eLuceo: the older they get, the stronger they become? wow!
Galadraal: makes sense, father
MagicWand-a: LOL chathound! you naughty thing! and LMAO Akelta. i used to work in a nursing home. now i have all sorts of bunny visuals dancing in my head. dammit.
Heidi: @Eilana and Akelta: don't do that to me! old demons f*** like bunnies,lol! don't you have any compassion? *supresses fantasies so that the seminar can go on*
Christian: "... a consistent journey of awesome." Now that is one for the books
Galadraal: more respectful though I think grandfather is respectful too
Akelta: ok commanders
Akelta: They sit on the council of a specific Dark Lord and coordinate military decisions and assist with organizing the legion commanders. They report to a Particular Dark Lord or Royal Commander depending on where they are placed. Those are council commander, oops: lol I didnt graph enough
Akelta: Council commanders have great strategic skills and are good at looking at the details of a situation or a particular problem and filling in the blanks.
eLuceo: so Council Commanders are strategists and Legion Commanders are the actitivists?
Akelta: Exactly eLuceo
4bluefaeries: ok but do council DC ever go into battle?
Akelta: @Blue, yes they can, it depends on the situation and who is needed, if there is a complex situation they can do in there and assist with making sure they have the advantage
Heidi: council commander sounds like a career that would suit me very well
Akelta: LOL, they do fight and they also are privy to certain private conversation of the dark lord they work under. They also can coordinate ventures with other beings like Angels.
Galadraal: Wow, I don't really think of demons and angels working together
4bluefaeries: do DC's ever have legions on angels to fight for them?
Akelta: LOL, they do @Blue, they will coordinate with the angelic leaders and work collaboratively.
4bluefaeries: ***nice***
Christian: Wait is there politicians?
Akelta: @Christian, we will get to social ranks after military. There are political ranks, like Lucifuge rofocal is the Prime Minister of Hell.
Heidi: omg, really?
MagicWand-a: I wanna be his private secretary....
Akelta: It is a very, VERY complex system so I have been piecing it together for many years and it is fascinating. @Wanda, LOL
Heidi: I want wanda to be his private secretary so that I can use my connection with her to find out why I laugh every time I read his name
eLuceo: which brings to this question, does the political ranks and the milatry ranks get a long well? lol
Akelta: @eLuceo, sometimes. They are demons they do disagree, only that sometimes leads to fist fights, lol
Eilana: I'm already picturing Wanda in pinstripes and fishnets with a stack of files
Heidi: I'm curious what he looks like to make wanda so hooked
eLuceo: have anyone turn to a Dark Lord and asked, "have you punched a politician before?"
Akelta: probably
Akelta: Legion Demon Commanders - Also Called just Demon Commanders, this rank are the demons who organize and command their legions and troops. They Organize the generals and handle the subtleties of training and make sure that the demons are in top shape and know how to handle themselves in tricky situations.
Akelta: Demon Commanders, also called legion commanders, have assigned legions underneath them and are responsible for their training. They become like a family really. They care about them and look out for them making sure they are ready to handle situations. Some Legion Commanders are specialists.
Christian: Specialists?
Akelta: They specialize in a particular area of expertise. Some have grounds of smaller legions that are trained to handle complex situations. Kinda like US special forces. or Green Barets/ oh I hope I spelt that right
Akelta: Within these ranks there are different levels and varying skills that some can have. Some Demon Commanders are exclusive under a Dark Lord and have different assignments from that dark lord. Other Commanders can actually be more general and not be specifically assigned. it does vary.
Eilana: I have a question about legions... not sure if those are coming up next though
Akelta: Legions yes, we have generals then legion captains then legionaires. Demon Generals - Demon Generals Works under the Demon Commanders and assist the commander with what they need. They are usually larger and tougher then the Commanders as they get into the grim and do a good portion of the work.
4bluefaeries: ok Demon Commanders are rare but all have legions right? That would make like what a gazillion?
Akelta: Demon Generals take a special sort of Demon. they are aggressive, tough as nails and they really dont take BS from anyone. @Blue, some of the demon reams are bigger then this universe, there
eLuceo: hellborns mostly?
MagicWand-a: How common is it for a Demon General to come forward to work with a human? I would assume not very
Akelta: @eLuceo, most of the generals I know are hellborns, they can be female, they also can be any species. Chaos, Lowborn, Mutilation, oh damn the scariest general I ever met was a mutilation general
ChatHound: *bites nails*
Heidi: I can imagine!
eLuceo: Nice!
Akelta: @Wanda, they are pretty rare, though I have a couple
4bluefaeries: so he puts Hilter to shame?
ChatHound: Mutilation Demons: inspiration for Cenobites? Hmmm
Akelta: @Blue, most mutilation demons can do that. @chathound, yes and no, the cenobites almost were more easy to reason with.
MagicWand-a: Nice! My hellborn commander is always trying to make me *man up* lol!
Galadraal: Mutilation, those are the demons I will not remember the name of
ChatHound: whoa
Galadraal: they scare me too much
Akelta: @Galadraal, awww, fluffy bunnies @Chathound, yeah I love hellraiser, I would love to find a demon like Pinhead, LOL .
Eilana: Demons in fluffy bunny costumes.... ears and fluffy tails.... *gets distracted*
Heidi: I often think I should've stuck to fluffy bunnies all along, lol
Galadraal: fluffy bunnies LOL
MagicWand-a: wooooh pinhead *sighhh*
Heidi: these would be some pretty horny bunnies Eilana! in all interpretations of horny!
Galadraal: Not me, Akelta I like the lighter ones
Akelta: Legion Captain - Legion Captains are the ones who head the individual legions. Commanders can commands multiple legions, The general oversees the
legions, but the legion Captain has worked hard and is at the top of the chain. They assist the generals with order and have more responsibilities then
4bluefaeries: are mutilation demons as sexual? Because I feel there not
Akelta: @Blue, oh yes they can be, actually their sexual practices are well intense. Some are not, but a lot are.
Akelta: Legionaires - The individual members of the legions. They vary in speciality and they work hard to attain more rank and more responsibility. They are very dedicated and disciplined in what they do.
Akelta: LOL!!! they are usually pretty toned and in shape
MagicWand-a: So with these Legionaires, are they more muscle or intellectual or does it vary? Yllidra is right LOL
Akelta: @Wanda, it varies, some are more muscle, some are more brains, they are trained based on their skills, they like to train them so that their skills are brought to surface.
4bluefaeries: do they wear uniforms or go around naked?
Akelta: @Blue, LOL!! they do have different outfits, but some dont leave a lot to the imagination
eLuceo: i was thinking full clad armour but then again whatever works to win the battle
Heidi: well, if you have amassed so much skill, you need to release it into something productive
eLuceo: do they need to polish their sword often to keep it shinny and sharp?
ChatHound: Polishing is a work that is NEVER done.
Akelta: LOL, ok, who wants to learn about Social ranks.
Eilana: me!
4bluefaeries: me,me I do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heidi: me!
Akelta: hehehe, ok awesome
Akelta: Dark Lords and Ladies or Demon Lords and Ladies- The Names of the Known Dark Lords, the Ruling Demons and at times their descendants. Some Common Dark Lords are Lord Satan, Lord Lucifer, Lord Mammon, Lord Azazel, Lord Paimon, Lady Unsere and Lord Leviathan. They are the head honchos the rulers of the demonic realms and the ones who maintain order and ensure that the realms are safe and protected.
Heidi: ooooooh Paimon......
MagicWand-a: mufaassaaaa
eLuceo: dun you start again ladies
4bluefaeries: They are the highest above all other in the Hell realms?
Akelta: Paimon is Amazng, he is also best friends with Lucifer.
Akelta: @Blue, they are the highest rank, in the Demon realms not all the demon realms are in the hell realms
MagicWand-a: The dromedary is not always present. Ive never actually seen it but i have heard it snort
4bluefaeries: newbie me here ,needs juicy details ladies!!!
MagicWand-a: He's a king blue. One of the highest ranking Kings there are. He only answers to Lucifer and that’s only because they are best friends.
Akelta: Hes also a Dark Lord. Which, yes you can have a Lord Title and a King title as well.
Heidi: He's a King, and a Lord, and he's best buddies with Lucifer. AND has a camel. Can someone be more perfect?
Akelta: Prime Minister - Lucifuge Rofocale is the Prime Minister of Hell. A political and social title. He oversees much of the politics. Prime Ministers are the highest political title one can attain and they are responsible for coordinating the demon realms and making sure that everything is running smooth. They can govern a body, for example Lucifuge has reign over worldly treasures.
eLuceo: do they get elected?
Akelta: They get appointed.
4bluefaeries: Lucifuge? is he related to Lucifer? brothers?
Akelta: They are not brothers in the biological fashion, they are twin in the duelistic fasion, Lucifuge is very Dark and Lucifer is very light.
eLuceo: what's the difference between a Lord and King title?
Akelta: @eLuceo, age and experience and power level,though they can have both
chatHound: Lucifuge is a Demon and Lucifer is an Angel...Is that right?
Heidi: Ok guys, by the end of this seminar, I need you to find me a very good reason to call Paimon. Cause I finally need to meet him somehow, and calling him just cause i'm drooling over him isn't gonna cut it.
4bluefaeries: so like polar opposites?
Akelta: Yes Lucifuge was born a Demon, and Lucifer was born an angel and is now a fallen angel.
4bluefaeries: but they balance each other out?
Akelta: @Blue, yes they are duel in nature.
ChatHound: Wow...that's just very cool.
Akelta: Kings and Queens - Demon kings and queens are a royal title. These demons are from one of the royal families and they can even be used to describe the Dark Lords. The Kings and the Queens Oversee realms, the core demons realms and the other demons realms can have different structures and different definitions of what a king and a queen is
4bluefaeries: is Lucifuge pleasant to work with? or only best for very advance humans?
eLuceo: do they appoint a new PM every few say, millions of years?
Akelta: @Blue, Lucifuge can be darker, and likes to work with baneful magicks @eLuceo, that is a good question, I should ask that cause really our knowledge of them is at best 10 000 years
4bluefaeries: their structures are so advanced and mindblowing
Akelta: It is, and I have simplifyed it so we can fit it into well three hours, lol
4bluefaeries: and we thank-you for that
Akelta: Known Demon Kings are King Baal (Bael) King Paimon King Beleth King Purson
ChatHound: Slightly OT, but are folks that work with angels/fallen angels considered demonolaters or angelolaters?
Heidi: *wonders if the previous prime minister of hell's body was never really found*
Akelta: @Chathound, some are yes. Fallen Angels are considered demons, because they did take on some DDE which I have been doing some fascinating research on, it is really awesome
eLuceo: @Akelta hope to know more on this topic soon
4bluefaeries: wait they can gain DDE?
Akelta: @Blue, Fallen Angels are Fallen Angels because they did infuse themselves with DDE.
Christian: Whats Euronymous rank, lord or...?
Akelta: Euronymous is a Dark Lord.
Heidi: OT, but I wonder if Lucifer appears so.... well, angelic, for lack of a better term, to everyone.
Akelta: some have more concentrations of it than others.
4bluefaeries: can humans do that?
Akelta: @Blue, only true forms can and it takes millions of years.
Eilana: can other beings 'fall' and gain/infuse with DDE? or only angels?
Akelta: @Eilana, I have not found any yet, it seems to be an exclusive trait of the FA's but it is something that does require more research. Just cause i have not found them, doesnt mean they dont exist. lol
ChatHound: Also, Asmodeus is a FA, yes? And is he considered a Dark Lord, too? (Or is Sexy Lord enough?)
Akelta: @Chathound, hehe yes he is a Dark Lord. Lucifer is also a Dark Lord and he is a FA. Fa's have become another species of demon. So they are given the same courtesies as other Demon Species.
ChatHound: REALLY?!? Well...HellOOO PAIMON!
MagicWand-a: He fell with Lucifer. Hence the reason he ONLY answers to Lucifer. He stood with him by his side.
Akelta: Yeah it is actually a facinating side project of mine, figuring out which of the Goetics are FA's and which are Other Species of Demons. LOL it is a life long undertaking, I will admit it is not complete.
Heidi: Ok, it's official. I fall for angels.
eLuceo: i guess there are other beings that take on DDE and become another species of demons, but we don't know yet
Akelta: While we are talking about Kings and Queens I wanted to quickly veer off to the Divinity Demons
Heidi: I felt so much safer when I had conveniently forgotten about Paimon falling
Akelta: We have a DC of Paimon who will be offered soon, he is interesting to work with. I love his energy.
TensoWSC: Has any demons take in angelic energy and now live in the angelic realm?
Akelta: @Tenso, the closest thing I have uncovered is the Devotion Demons, they have not taken on Angel energy per say, but they have taken on a pure white energy which could be considered Angelic I guess, and they infuse their being with a perfect balance of the white energy with their own DDE.
eLuceo: Quick question: how about Demon Duke and Duchess?
Akelta: Yes, they are coming; I just wanted to cover Divinity Demons first. They are one of the groups that are different than the core demons. They have many individual realms, each realm has a ruling family and sometimes they can expand their realms and open up new territories. The ruler of the Realm is the Demon Queen, King, or multiple kings and queens depending on the relationship between the ruling couple (they can be polygamous) They are responsible for appointing guard and instilling protections for their realm. If anything major happened the Divinity Demons do have connections to the Core Demons and they can ask for assistance.
eLuceo: do they have DCs also? or they have their own military
Akelta: @eLuceo, they don't, they have their own Military, though a Divinity Demon could leave the realm and go join the Core army
4bluefaeries: they do seem to have numerous amount of kings and queens, is this do to the vastness in land?
Akelta: @Blue, there are many realms that span and insane amount of space.
eLuceo: got it thanks
Akelta: I like to look at it like this, you have a bubble blowing machine, each bubble represents a divinity realms.
eLuceo: thinks to myself just how big is the universe?!!!
Akelta: Any Questions on Kings/Queens or Divinity Demons
Galadraal: Wow, that's alot of realms
Akelta: @Galadraal, yes, lol it is, mapping it is quite the challenge
eLuceo: the DD are awesome, from what i read in the threads
Akelta: ok next is Demon Princesses and Princess.. Princes and Princesses - The Children of an appointed king and queen. This rank is one for those who are descended from a Demon King of Queen and have not been appointed the Rank of King of Queen to preside over their own realm, they always assist their parents with their duties and responsibilities. There are situations where there is no direct lineage and a demon in appointed a prince in as rank in order to serve a Demon King or Queen.
ChatHound: What relation is the Divinity Demons to Devotional Demons...are Devotionals found throughout the realms or would they be more in the Divine realms?
4bluefaeries: so I take it this is no map to Helm's deep? lol
Akelta: @Chathound good question, Divinity Demons have their own series of realms whereas Devotion Demons have their own realm which is actually really close to source. @Blue, no it is quite complicated
Christian: I think the devotionals have a monestary?
Akelta: @Christian, yes they do, they are very pure and devoted to what they do.
ChatHound: Devotionals are AMAZING. Mine has become pretty much my guru. Excellent guide!
Akelta: awww that is awesome!
4bluefaeries: can prince or princess marry like cousins? to keep the blood lines strong?
Akelta: @Blue, they look at things differently up there, they tend to marry for love.
Akelta: Examples of Demons Princes Prince Vassago Prince Sitri
MagicWand-a: marry cousins... where I come from thats illegal! lol
Heidi: wow, now that's a big change! Considering how few people actually marry for love in our realm, even at this day and age
ChatHound: Where I come from, it's Uncle Momma and Aunt Daddy.
MagicWand-a: ROFL
4bluefaeries: so not to be gross, just wondering because the immortals and incest to keep the blood lines, nevermind
Heidi: Wanda, you've met all the cool people out there!
MagicWand-a: oh yes. i always think of you when I study him. i keep meaning to tell you that LOL
eLuceo: marry for love, work for passion..... heck! us human realm is hell
TheTerranSystem: hello theoretically what is the highest Demon you can bind to a vessel?
ChatHound: Blue, genetics is a problem...I don't think it applies in energetic situations.
Akelta: LOL!!, Demons they see things differently. @TErran, a Son or Daughter of Satan. @Chat, yes this is true, energy is different.
4bluefaeries: not trying to be gross,just thinking our laws and morals don't apply to them
MagicWand-a: oh blue it was a good and valid question I was just playing with you!
TheTerranSystem: Is that in Royalty, or Divine Demon section of the store?
Akelta: @Terran, Son and Daughters we usually list then at rare intervals as they are different to conjure and bind, if you are interested in a custom, please feel free to send me an email.
TheTerranSystem: They have the higher energy connection than a DC, or a Demon General right?
eLuceo: @Terran it all comes down to if both your energy is compatible, not so much on the "ranks" per se
Akelta: @Terran, They can be incredibly powerful. Royal Demon Commander might be another you want to look at, though I can find sons and daughters who are also royal commander, so best of both worlds.
TheTerranSystem: Right. I'm still bonding with my DC right now.
Galadraal: so Akelta, Satan is the most powerful demon then if his children are the most powerful you bind?
Akelta: @Galadraal, well some say his Wives are the most powerful, hehe, but yes in Demonolatry Satan is the all and from my experience he is the most powerful
TheTerranSystem: So can a Demon have sexual interaction with a human being and have some sort of human hereditary/demon offspring
Galadraal: Are there ranks of the Demon Lords? as in most powerful? like Satan, Lucifer, Leviathan, etc?
MagicWand-a: Galadraal to my knowledge, in demonolatry Satan is considered the All however the other lords, or 9 Demonic Divines are pretty much level in power. they all do different things
4bluefaeries: can a wives of the dark lords be bound
Heidi: I always wondered if it would be considered a conflict of energies somehow, if one got a son or daughter of Satan while not working or planning to work with Satan himself
Akelta: @Terran, not in my experience, they can help to influence the energies of the baby though. Remember Demons are true form, we are technically in a human vessel, but that is a whole other topic. @Blue, a binding can be made of any demon, but I know his wives dont like to even be known.
Galadraal: I guess for my path, it makes sense the last of your shop workings I got was the Satan one Just moving up and up
4bluefaeries: aww so if ever a connection would be made it would be through that dark lord then?
Akelta: @Blue, It has taken me Many years to meet only a fraction of their wives or spouses, they do have their personal life
Akelta: Grand Dukes and Grand Duchesses and Dukes and Duchesses - Serve under the Ruling Demon Monarchy of that realm and assist with different tasks and organizing the overall structure of that realm. With regards to Grand Dukes and Duchesses This title is similar to Duke and Duchess, the difference is more of a promotional and distinguished factor them an actual change of duties.
Galadraal: what about Servitors?
TheTerranSystem: If sun is a place where forces of hell live, then where do the celestial divine live of the light?
Akelta: @Terran, that is not how I see it, the outer spiritual world is of a different structure it is vast and complex and there is actually chat notes on the different realms of the spiritual world
Galadraal: Aren't or weren't they originally made from a clay and brought to life like a golem?
Akelta: @Galadraal, that is a Golem servitor, as I said servitors are a whole topic in themselves
ChatHound: So, Satan is considered First among Equals sort of thing? I can understand that.
eLuceo: Satan sits at the Divine Council if i remember from our previous chat
MagicWand-a: yes chathound but hes a bit more than that.
Akelta: I call Satan the Father of demons, lol yes. He does indeed sit on the divine council
4bluefaeries: Will lord Satan ever retire?
MagicWand-a: No blue
Christian: Divine council?
Akelta: Known Demon Dukes are (According to the Ars Goetia) - Duke Agares Duke Valefar Duke Barbatos Duke Gusion Duke Eligos
Galadraal: that's why he likes "Father" and not grand dad
eLuceo: Father sounds protective and fatherly, granpa sounded so...."old"
MagicWand-a: Gusion is an EXCELLENT demon to work with when you are doing introspective work, he really does hold up a mirror to you and sort of point out where you need to work on things to progress to the next level spiritual wise
Akelta: Ok next on the Demon Ranks, Counts and Countesses - The count and the countesses can be responsible for the individual armies of a specific realm and also coordinating the political side with the Demon Commanders. Whereas commanders and generals can be exceptionally militant counts can also take into account their individual realm and its needs and coordinate efforts in a way that is beneficial for both. They also can command their own personal legions and can be charged with the protection of an area of a realm.
MagicWand-a: Is there a number of legions specifically they would command or oversee Akelta?
Akelta: @Wanda, it varies. Examples of Counts in Literature. Count/President Botis Count Andromalius. Ok, Marquis - Often more militant in mind then a count, they are similar to a count except for the fact that marquis have displayed an overall understanding of protection and defence and are quite capable of arranging strategic defences for their areas. Examples of known demon marquis are. Marquis Samigina Marquis Aamon Marquis Leraje. Any questions on the Demon ranks so far?
Eilana: how many Demons are in a legion?
Galadraal: When you list your demons, I mostly see DCs
Akelta: @Galadraal, yes I do tend to enjoy working with the commanders
4bluefaeries: because of their ranks, are they well financally ?
Akelta: @Eilana, great question, it varies, some legions can have 1000s of troops, while more specialized ones can have a smaller number, the smallest legion I encountered was only 20 demons. @Blue, most demons realms are financially well off
darkstarfyre: Do they have air planes tanks etc. equivalents?
eLuceo: army, navy or airforce?
Galadraal: 20? I would have thought it would be at least 1000 like, "my name is legion for I am many"
Galadraal: I had no idea there were so many different levels. I'm still really very new to all of this
4bluefaeries: same here Galadraal
Akelta: the legion with 20, they were incredibly specialized, like super specialized
eLuceo: elite demolition squad, elite assasin squad, elite spy sqaud, mostly might just be a few people
Akelta: There are specialized well ranks and other titles like Demon assasins, Demon Mages, Black Flame Masters.
Heidi: demon mages <3
Galadraal: I'd be interested in hearing more about the mages but I guess that's another topic
Heidi: I'd love to see a few mages listed again *hint hint*
Akelta: Demons have an incredible power to them, a lot notice there is a difference in their power level, they are also true form beings so they have access to some incredible abilities
Galaadral: I love my Black Flame masters, I've been using the one a bunch lately
Heidi: black flame masters are amazing
ChatHound: Agreed, Black Flame Masters rock! Such hard working guys.
Eilana: I wanna hear about Demon Knights <3
MagicWand-a: Eilana you just want a knight in shining armor to ... wait we are keeping this clean
Eilana: how did you know what I did with my knights? rofl
Akelta: @Eilana, Demon Knights, Divinity Demons have them in their realms. They are warriors and very powerful.
Eilana: @Akelta, ah so you have met some <3 I wondered if they were only in Divinity Demon realms or in others as well
Akelta: @Eilana, they are in other realms also, but the divinity ones I know best
TheTerranSystem: Wow there are so many subsets of each being to enrap my mind around it is just really hard
eLuceo: @Terran i think the energy wavelength and intensity differs from each entities, hence some are darker, some are lighter dark, some are more "grey", some
are lighter shade of grey, some of whiter, etc
TheTerranSystem: There must be trillions of spirits beings
Akelta: @Terran, yeah it is a lot ot take in, the spiritual world is larger and more massive than the known universe, what is out there can be hard to fathom.
Galadraal: yes, it is difficult to comprehend
TheTerranSystem: Yes and earth has tens of millions of physical realm species just here. Imagine another planet
Akelta: @Terran, exactly
eLuceo: bubble machine, always churning out new reams
4bluefaeries: well one can never get lonely,lol
Akelta: @eLuceo that is another element, the element of creation and beings being able to create and craft new realms
MagicWand-a: I want a legionaire
eLuceo: @wanda to do what? hehe
Heidi: I want someone to arrange a date with Paimon on my behalf, lol not a date date, a let's drink a cup of coffee together kind of date
Akelta: I do apologize I am going to have to leave at 8, as I have a lot of stuff to get done and emails to send out, but does anyone have any questions?
Eilana: I'm good <3
Recorded by the wonderful Luna <3 It is a huge topic to cover, so please feel free to ask any questions! Akelta: It is wonderful to see you all here. Tonight’s topic is going to be on Demonic Ranks
Eilana: yes! been looking forward to this one for months
4bluefaeries: looking forward to the topic Akelta
Akelta: Which is actually a harder topic to do, as there are many different demonic realms. Some which are separate from the core group and they tend to have their own ranking systems. Divinity Demons tend to be one of those species that their realms have a unique ranking system.
Akelta: Though unlike some of the other realms, the Divinity demons do work with the central demonic ranks and by that I mean, Lord Satan, Lord Lucifer, those demons, they are the main dark lords and the military system that is overseen by them is pretty central and powerful to the demonic world.
Akelta: Ok so we will start with the central ranking system. This is the main core group of demons. The Dark Lords and the Demonic Military ranks of Hell
Akelta: So we see a lot of ranks listed, we can also find them in many of the old grimours and books. We are going to start at the Miliraty Ranks as it is one of the easier ones to handle. .
Akelta: There is a difference between social ranks and military ranks.
Akelta: ok, so the first rank we will be discussing is the Royal Demon Commander.
4bluefaeries: we are all eyes to read lady Akelta
Akelta: Royal Demon Commanders are the Commanders of Commanders, They quite often are descended from the High Ranking Dark Lords and Carry with them Royal Lineage.
Galadraal: like sons & daughters
Akelta: They can also have their own Generals and legions to manage. Some are older and more experienced than others, while some at the highest levels are entrusted with incredible information and tasks. Sons and Daughters can definitely be royal commanders. Also descendants like grandchildren and great grandchildren. They organize all Council Commanders and the Legion Demon Commanders and they are usually have royal lineage and connection to a Dark Lord. With Royal Commanders, they work very hard to get to that level, it is not something that anyone can just ascend to and not all the children and descendants are Royal Commanders. They work very hard to get to that level and it can be a social rank, as well as a Military one, Royal being that they have a powerful family lineage. Royal Commanders can have a number of commanders and council commanders under them and they coordinate the efforts of their group. They usually are the top of their group, except in times where royal commanders may get together to discuss and coordinate their efforts. Depending on their age, and how long they have been at this and how accomplished they are, will determine how much they are entrusted with. Any questions on Royal Commanders?
Christian: Just the comment, that theyre incredible?
Galadraal: does being a son or daughter allow them to progress faster?
MagicWand-a: Do all Royal descendants have this job? Is it a choice thing?
4bluefaeries: so they have to be pure bloodline from powerful dark lords?
eLuceo: i'm going to ask about the difference between the Council Commanders and Legion Commanders but I think these topics will be right up
Akelta: Usually when they are a son of daughter they are answering to their father so it can be harder for them, lol it depends, Demons like to reward people based on their ability and skill, so it all depends on the demons. @Wanda, it is a choice, not every son or daughter or descendant is called to join the demon military @Blue, yes they are usually related to a dark lord @Eluceo, the differences in commanders will be covered yes
Galadraal: I guess like with humans if their parent is a teacher it can be more difficult for them
4bluefaeries: how long does it take in training **** years to even become a DC?
Heidi: do royal demon commanders work under a dark lord they are related with through blood, or could they happen to be under someone else not from their direct lineage? meaning, they are descendants from one dark lord but get their direct orders from another dark lord?
Akelta: @Galadraal, yes and no, their parents can also train them with unique skills and they may have an inside look at how things are run @Heidi, no they can be assigned or work under different dark lords @Blue, many, many years and it varies.
Galadraal: like an inside track? Like my daughter of Leviathan?
eLuceo: like "take your child to work" day
MagicWand-a: hey my dad says you have to give me a job...remember over hell golf the other day?
4bluefaeries: so a son of Mammon can work under like lord Lucifer for an example?
Akelta: @Galadraal, your daughter of leviathan she is very accomplished and worked very hard. She looks up to her father and does follow in his footsteps. @Blue, yes, they can
Galadraal:
I am SO LUCKYMagicWand-a: wooo galadraal you lucky duck!! *trying not to be jelly* haha
4bluefaeries: are any favored or given special treatment?
Akelta: @blue, not usually
Heidi: do legions under different dark lords operate for the same purpose or is there any hint of conflict of interests there? you know, like politics, we're supposed to be a union but we watch our backs cause you never know what X lord will decide to do?
Galadraal:
I know Wanda, I've been really blessed with the Demons that have come forward for me I am amazed and in awe of the powerful demons who have come to my assistance Akelta: @Heidi, the central core is pretty united, there may be some interesting characters that do deals with more shady realms, but at the higher levels they are pretty united. Not many would want to bring upon the wrath of Lord Satan and his personal army. lol
Galadraal: LOL no shit
4bluefaeries: yeah that would be a big no no, lol
Galadraal: or any of the other Lords I would think
Akelta: Yeah cause many of them are friends, lots of the dark lords know each other
eLuceo: and have hell golf together
Heidi: "interesting characters that do deals with more shady realms", mmmm, i'd like to hear you elaborate on that if we ever have the time for that
Akelta: @Heidi, some commanders may deal and form alliances with demon realms not connected to the core group
Galadraal: I wouldn't want to cross your Venom, Akelta, either
Akelta: Venom is a very powerful strategist, and a amazing warrior,
4bluefaeries: and hot too, you forgot HOT
Heidi: I was just wondering, cause it's a common thing in human politics. you know, we're friends, but we have to watch our backs cause friends is not always real friends
Galadraal: I would love to see his skills that you've spoken about, the battles he's been in
Akelta: That is one cool thing to ask your demons, some of them love to talk about their military careers, they can reveal some awesome stories.
Christian: What would a Royal Demon commanders MOs be?
Eilana: I have a question, are there that many wars? or what are all these commanders and armies doing all the time?
Akelta: MO?
eLuceo: Eilana you read my mind �
Eilana: modus operandi?
Heidi: I'm not confident I can accurately receive that kind of detailed information just yet, but I'll definitely ask them sometime
Galadraal: I wish I could better communicate
one day . . .
Christian: Mission objective, like as a military aspect?
Eilana: lol or not haha
Galadraal: me either Heidi but I would love to hear their stories
4bluefaeries: do they ever have day's off?
Akelta: @Eilana, that is a good question, there are beings out there, really twisted sick, sinister, dark nasty beings and some of them have an appetite for our energies. Demons because they do also deal in the darker realms, help to keep them back and keep them away, there are beings worse than sludge out there
Eilana: oooh Akelta that sounds so cool
Galadraal: worse than sludge? I thought they were at the bottom
Akelta: Oh, lol sorry christian, I hope I answered that
4bluefaeries: ok worst then sludge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Akelta: Things can always get darker
Heidi: I don't really want to know all the extra super duper nasty things out there. I'm just happy there are armies trained to keep them at bay
eLuceo: in one of the previous chat, i learn that demons also protect us from things that are nasty and beyond
Akelta: those things being in a universe we are kinda protected from, but yeah there are some really nasty things out there
4bluefaeries: what can possibly be worst then sludge?
eLuceo: @blue i dun want to know
Eilana: I love Demon Commanders! <3
Akelta: <3 me too. @Blue there is corrosive darkness I call it
4bluefaeries: hides under her covers now
Akelta: other creatures from darker realms they get hard to descibe because I think my mind stops as a form of protection
Galadraal: Corrosive sounds far worse than sludge. I ask for protection
eLuceo: i assume the military is always on alert, has there been a recent war?
Galadraal: makes sense, Akelta, we protect ourselves from danger. Quite a few of the chats have gone to the demons that mangle and cut up; they are too much for me to want to imagine
MagicWand-a: Are there Commanders of any rank to specialize in combating this corrosive ..energy or beings?
eLuceo: different specialisation?
Galadraal: in fact, I always forget even their name LOL
MagicWand-a: Or is that something they all learn as part of their training?
Akelta: @Galadraal, yeah some say when you speak of them they are drawn to it, so best not to even remember @Wanda, most demons in that core group have the ability
Heidi: *realizes she accidentally logged off after stating she doesnt want to hear about dark beings, therefore missing the part about corrosive beings*
Galadraal: :-0 now THAT can be scary, Akelta
eLuceo: i love fluffy bunnies think fluffy bunnies
Eilana: @Akelta, that's scary they are drawn by their name... eek
Akelta: the outer spiritual world is a dangerous place in some areas, lol I dont know their name, so we have nothing to worry about
Galadraal: like beatlejuice, saying his name three times?
Akelta: plus we all have how many demons between the group of us. The cool thing is, sometimes angels and demons will team up against these things
eLuceo: * just googled fluffy bunnies pics, feel all better now
Galadraal: I think at least my demons come forward to protect us. Having demons in our lives protects us from the sludge and the human slime out there
ChatHound: Good point, Akelta! I've got guys to fight for me and guys to keep me INTIMATELY distracted. Rawr!
Akelta: out there, some groups have animosity between then and fights between small grounds have broken out, but this large scale angel and demon war just doesnt happen, lol
4bluefaeries: do they ever get scared? a DC I mean?
Akelta: @Blue, They are pretty brave and when they are at that level they have seen a lot. I have a Commander who actually is missing am eye and half his face is scratched up, he cannot get it healed he said that energy was stolen from him. He's unique.
Heidi: poor thing....
Eilana: = (
Galadraal: wow, Akelta
4bluefaeries: OMG
eLuceo: awww poor thing
Akelta: He is really old and has seen a lot. Ancient really
MagicWand-a: awww thats sad
Christian: Is he proud of his scars?
Galadraal: I imagine; it's a shame he can't get it healed, does it cause him any pain?
Eilana: cooooool he must be amazing to chat with
Akelta: He actually doesnt mind them, he said he has grown use to them
4bluefaeries: OMG giving him huggies
ChatHound: Ancient...makes me think: Are there guys (or gals) out there that are so old they are in a form of retirement? I bet they have plenty of time to spend with a keeper...and lifetimes of stories.
MagicWand-a: wooo good question!
Heidi: like a grandpa demon? lol
4bluefaeries: I take them as wise beyond understanding
Eilana: and that makes me wonder... can Demons be too old for sex? o.o I'm sorry I can't resist asking.... lol
Akelta: @Eilana, The oldest still Fornicate like bunnies
MagicWand-a: i want a grandpa demon!
Akelta: @Chathound, that is a Great question, when you are immortal and live forever, you dont actually enter into the old age, you get stronger and more capable in your abilites. Some take time off to pursue other ventures, but life out there is more like a continuous journey of awesome.
4bluefaeries: My beautiful DC lady K is an ancient, and she’s no Grandma, but an extremely beautiful femme fatale
Eilana: Blue she sounds awesome ^-^ and sexy 4bluefaeries: she is and I love her beyond words!!!!
ChatHound: I'd share a Grandpa Demon with you. Rawry-rawr!
Galadraal: LOL Akelta
Akelta: LOL well a lot of them are grandpas, Satan is a Grandpa, lol though he hates the name
Eilana: giggles awwwwww
Galadraal: Satan hates the name Grandpa? too funny
Akelta: HE prefers father over grandfather, LOL
eLuceo: the older they get, the stronger they become? wow!
Galadraal: makes sense, father
MagicWand-a: LOL chathound! you naughty thing! and LMAO Akelta. i used to work in a nursing home. now i have all sorts of bunny visuals dancing in my head. dammit.
Heidi: @Eilana and Akelta: don't do that to me! old demons f*** like bunnies,lol! don't you have any compassion? *supresses fantasies so that the seminar can go on*
Christian: "... a consistent journey of awesome." Now that is one for the books
Galadraal: more respectful though I think grandfather is respectful too
Akelta: ok commanders
Akelta: They sit on the council of a specific Dark Lord and coordinate military decisions and assist with organizing the legion commanders. They report to a Particular Dark Lord or Royal Commander depending on where they are placed. Those are council commander, oops: lol I didnt graph enough
Akelta: Council commanders have great strategic skills and are good at looking at the details of a situation or a particular problem and filling in the blanks.
eLuceo: so Council Commanders are strategists and Legion Commanders are the actitivists?
Akelta: Exactly eLuceo
4bluefaeries: ok but do council DC ever go into battle?
Akelta: @Blue, yes they can, it depends on the situation and who is needed, if there is a complex situation they can do in there and assist with making sure they have the advantage
Heidi: council commander sounds like a career that would suit me very well
Akelta: LOL, they do fight and they also are privy to certain private conversation of the dark lord they work under. They also can coordinate ventures with other beings like Angels.
Galadraal: Wow, I don't really think of demons and angels working together
4bluefaeries: do DC's ever have legions on angels to fight for them?
Akelta: LOL, they do @Blue, they will coordinate with the angelic leaders and work collaboratively.
4bluefaeries: ***nice***
Christian: Wait is there politicians?
Akelta: @Christian, we will get to social ranks after military. There are political ranks, like Lucifuge rofocal is the Prime Minister of Hell.
Heidi: omg, really?
MagicWand-a: I wanna be his private secretary....
Akelta: It is a very, VERY complex system so I have been piecing it together for many years and it is fascinating. @Wanda, LOL
Heidi: I want wanda to be his private secretary so that I can use my connection with her to find out why I laugh every time I read his name
eLuceo: which brings to this question, does the political ranks and the milatry ranks get a long well? lol
Akelta: @eLuceo, sometimes. They are demons they do disagree, only that sometimes leads to fist fights, lol
Eilana: I'm already picturing Wanda in pinstripes and fishnets with a stack of files
Heidi: I'm curious what he looks like to make wanda so hooked
eLuceo: have anyone turn to a Dark Lord and asked, "have you punched a politician before?"
Akelta: probably
Akelta: Legion Demon Commanders - Also Called just Demon Commanders, this rank are the demons who organize and command their legions and troops. They Organize the generals and handle the subtleties of training and make sure that the demons are in top shape and know how to handle themselves in tricky situations.
Akelta: Demon Commanders, also called legion commanders, have assigned legions underneath them and are responsible for their training. They become like a family really. They care about them and look out for them making sure they are ready to handle situations. Some Legion Commanders are specialists.
Christian: Specialists?
Akelta: They specialize in a particular area of expertise. Some have grounds of smaller legions that are trained to handle complex situations. Kinda like US special forces. or Green Barets/ oh I hope I spelt that right
Akelta: Within these ranks there are different levels and varying skills that some can have. Some Demon Commanders are exclusive under a Dark Lord and have different assignments from that dark lord. Other Commanders can actually be more general and not be specifically assigned. it does vary.
Eilana: I have a question about legions... not sure if those are coming up next though
Akelta: Legions yes, we have generals then legion captains then legionaires. Demon Generals - Demon Generals Works under the Demon Commanders and assist the commander with what they need. They are usually larger and tougher then the Commanders as they get into the grim and do a good portion of the work.
4bluefaeries: ok Demon Commanders are rare but all have legions right? That would make like what a gazillion?
Akelta: Demon Generals take a special sort of Demon. they are aggressive, tough as nails and they really dont take BS from anyone. @Blue, some of the demon reams are bigger then this universe, there
eLuceo: hellborns mostly?
MagicWand-a: How common is it for a Demon General to come forward to work with a human? I would assume not very
Akelta: @eLuceo, most of the generals I know are hellborns, they can be female, they also can be any species. Chaos, Lowborn, Mutilation, oh damn the scariest general I ever met was a mutilation general
ChatHound: *bites nails*
Heidi: I can imagine!
eLuceo: Nice!
Akelta: @Wanda, they are pretty rare, though I have a couple
4bluefaeries: so he puts Hilter to shame?
ChatHound: Mutilation Demons: inspiration for Cenobites? Hmmm
Akelta: @Blue, most mutilation demons can do that. @chathound, yes and no, the cenobites almost were more easy to reason with.
MagicWand-a: Nice! My hellborn commander is always trying to make me *man up* lol!
Galadraal: Mutilation, those are the demons I will not remember the name of
ChatHound: whoa
Galadraal: they scare me too much
Akelta: @Galadraal, awww, fluffy bunnies @Chathound, yeah I love hellraiser, I would love to find a demon like Pinhead, LOL .
Eilana: Demons in fluffy bunny costumes.... ears and fluffy tails.... *gets distracted*
Heidi: I often think I should've stuck to fluffy bunnies all along, lol
Galadraal: fluffy bunnies LOL
MagicWand-a: wooooh pinhead *sighhh*
Heidi: these would be some pretty horny bunnies Eilana! in all interpretations of horny!
Galadraal: Not me, Akelta
I like the lighter onesAkelta: Legion Captain - Legion Captains are the ones who head the individual legions. Commanders can commands multiple legions, The general oversees the
legions, but the legion Captain has worked hard and is at the top of the chain. They assist the generals with order and have more responsibilities then
4bluefaeries: are mutilation demons as sexual? Because I feel there not
Akelta: @Blue, oh yes they can be, actually their sexual practices are well intense. Some are not, but a lot are.
Akelta: Legionaires - The individual members of the legions. They vary in speciality and they work hard to attain more rank and more responsibility. They are very dedicated and disciplined in what they do.
Akelta: LOL!!! they are usually pretty toned and in shape
MagicWand-a: So with these Legionaires, are they more muscle or intellectual or does it vary? Yllidra is right LOL
Akelta: @Wanda, it varies, some are more muscle, some are more brains, they are trained based on their skills, they like to train them so that their skills are brought to surface.
4bluefaeries: do they wear uniforms or go around naked?
Akelta: @Blue, LOL!! they do have different outfits, but some dont leave a lot to the imagination
eLuceo: i was thinking full clad armour but then again whatever works to win the battle
Heidi: well, if you have amassed so much skill, you need to release it into something productive
eLuceo: do they need to polish their sword often to keep it shinny and sharp?
ChatHound: Polishing is a work that is NEVER done.
Akelta: LOL, ok, who wants to learn about Social ranks.
Eilana: me!
4bluefaeries: me,me I do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heidi: me!
Akelta: hehehe, ok awesome
Akelta: Dark Lords and Ladies or Demon Lords and Ladies- The Names of the Known Dark Lords, the Ruling Demons and at times their descendants. Some Common Dark Lords are Lord Satan, Lord Lucifer, Lord Mammon, Lord Azazel, Lord Paimon, Lady Unsere and Lord Leviathan. They are the head honchos the rulers of the demonic realms and the ones who maintain order and ensure that the realms are safe and protected.
Heidi: ooooooh Paimon......
MagicWand-a: mufaassaaaa
eLuceo: dun you start again ladies
4bluefaeries: They are the highest above all other in the Hell realms?
Akelta: Paimon is Amazng, he is also best friends with Lucifer.
Akelta: @Blue, they are the highest rank, in the Demon realms not all the demon realms are in the hell realms
MagicWand-a: The dromedary is not always present. Ive never actually seen it but i have heard it snort
4bluefaeries: newbie me here ,needs juicy details ladies!!!
MagicWand-a: He's a king blue. One of the highest ranking Kings there are. He only answers to Lucifer and that’s only because they are best friends.
Akelta: Hes also a Dark Lord. Which, yes you can have a Lord Title and a King title as well.
Heidi: He's a King, and a Lord, and he's best buddies with Lucifer. AND has a camel. Can someone be more perfect?
Akelta: Prime Minister - Lucifuge Rofocale is the Prime Minister of Hell. A political and social title. He oversees much of the politics. Prime Ministers are the highest political title one can attain and they are responsible for coordinating the demon realms and making sure that everything is running smooth. They can govern a body, for example Lucifuge has reign over worldly treasures.
eLuceo: do they get elected?
Akelta: They get appointed.
4bluefaeries: Lucifuge? is he related to Lucifer? brothers?
Akelta: They are not brothers in the biological fashion, they are twin in the duelistic fasion, Lucifuge is very Dark and Lucifer is very light.
eLuceo: what's the difference between a Lord and King title?
Akelta: @eLuceo, age and experience and power level,though they can have both
chatHound: Lucifuge is a Demon and Lucifer is an Angel...Is that right?
Heidi: Ok guys, by the end of this seminar, I need you to find me a very good reason to call Paimon. Cause I finally need to meet him somehow, and calling him just cause i'm drooling over him isn't gonna cut it.
4bluefaeries: so like polar opposites?
Akelta: Yes Lucifuge was born a Demon, and Lucifer was born an angel and is now a fallen angel.
4bluefaeries: but they balance each other out?
Akelta: @Blue, yes they are duel in nature.
ChatHound: Wow...that's just very cool.
Akelta: Kings and Queens - Demon kings and queens are a royal title. These demons are from one of the royal families and they can even be used to describe the Dark Lords. The Kings and the Queens Oversee realms, the core demons realms and the other demons realms can have different structures and different definitions of what a king and a queen is
4bluefaeries: is Lucifuge pleasant to work with? or only best for very advance humans?
eLuceo: do they appoint a new PM every few say, millions of years?
Akelta: @Blue, Lucifuge can be darker, and likes to work with baneful magicks @eLuceo, that is a good question, I should ask that cause really our knowledge of them is at best 10 000 years
4bluefaeries: their structures are so advanced and mindblowing
Akelta: It is, and I have simplifyed it so we can fit it into well three hours, lol
4bluefaeries: and we thank-you for that
Akelta: Known Demon Kings are King Baal (Bael) King Paimon King Beleth King Purson
ChatHound: Slightly OT, but are folks that work with angels/fallen angels considered demonolaters or angelolaters?
Heidi: *wonders if the previous prime minister of hell's body was never really found*
Akelta: @Chathound, some are yes. Fallen Angels are considered demons, because they did take on some DDE which I have been doing some fascinating research on, it is really awesome
eLuceo: @Akelta hope to know more on this topic soon
4bluefaeries: wait they can gain DDE?
Akelta: @Blue, Fallen Angels are Fallen Angels because they did infuse themselves with DDE.
Christian: Whats Euronymous rank, lord or...?
Akelta: Euronymous is a Dark Lord.
Heidi: OT, but I wonder if Lucifer appears so.... well, angelic, for lack of a better term, to everyone.
Akelta: some have more concentrations of it than others.
4bluefaeries: can humans do that?
Akelta: @Blue, only true forms can and it takes millions of years.
Eilana: can other beings 'fall' and gain/infuse with DDE? or only angels?
Akelta: @Eilana, I have not found any yet, it seems to be an exclusive trait of the FA's but it is something that does require more research. Just cause i have not found them, doesnt mean they dont exist. lol
ChatHound: Also, Asmodeus is a FA, yes? And is he considered a Dark Lord, too? (Or is Sexy Lord enough?)
Akelta: @Chathound, hehe yes he is a Dark Lord. Lucifer is also a Dark Lord and he is a FA. Fa's have become another species of demon. So they are given the same courtesies as other Demon Species.
ChatHound: REALLY?!? Well...HellOOO PAIMON!
MagicWand-a: He fell with Lucifer. Hence the reason he ONLY answers to Lucifer. He stood with him by his side.
Akelta: Yeah it is actually a facinating side project of mine, figuring out which of the Goetics are FA's and which are Other Species of Demons. LOL it is a life long undertaking, I will admit it is not complete.
Heidi: Ok, it's official. I fall for angels.
eLuceo: i guess there are other beings that take on DDE and become another species of demons, but we don't know yet
Akelta: While we are talking about Kings and Queens I wanted to quickly veer off to the Divinity Demons
Heidi: I felt so much safer when I had conveniently forgotten about Paimon falling
Akelta: We have a DC of Paimon who will be offered soon, he is interesting to work with. I love his energy.
TensoWSC: Has any demons take in angelic energy and now live in the angelic realm?
Akelta: @Tenso, the closest thing I have uncovered is the Devotion Demons, they have not taken on Angel energy per say, but they have taken on a pure white energy which could be considered Angelic I guess, and they infuse their being with a perfect balance of the white energy with their own DDE.
eLuceo: Quick question: how about Demon Duke and Duchess?
Akelta: Yes, they are coming; I just wanted to cover Divinity Demons first. They are one of the groups that are different than the core demons. They have many individual realms, each realm has a ruling family and sometimes they can expand their realms and open up new territories. The ruler of the Realm is the Demon Queen, King, or multiple kings and queens depending on the relationship between the ruling couple (they can be polygamous) They are responsible for appointing guard and instilling protections for their realm. If anything major happened the Divinity Demons do have connections to the Core Demons and they can ask for assistance.
eLuceo: do they have DCs also? or they have their own military
Akelta: @eLuceo, they don't, they have their own Military, though a Divinity Demon could leave the realm and go join the Core army
4bluefaeries: they do seem to have numerous amount of kings and queens, is this do to the vastness in land?
Akelta: @Blue, there are many realms that span and insane amount of space.
eLuceo: got it thanks
Akelta: I like to look at it like this, you have a bubble blowing machine, each bubble represents a divinity realms.
eLuceo: thinks to myself just how big is the universe?!!!
Akelta: Any Questions on Kings/Queens or Divinity Demons
Galadraal: Wow, that's alot of realms
Akelta: @Galadraal, yes, lol it is, mapping it is quite the challenge
eLuceo: the DD are awesome, from what i read in the threads
Akelta: ok next is Demon Princesses and Princess.. Princes and Princesses - The Children of an appointed king and queen. This rank is one for those who are descended from a Demon King of Queen and have not been appointed the Rank of King of Queen to preside over their own realm, they always assist their parents with their duties and responsibilities. There are situations where there is no direct lineage and a demon in appointed a prince in as rank in order to serve a Demon King or Queen.
ChatHound: What relation is the Divinity Demons to Devotional Demons...are Devotionals found throughout the realms or would they be more in the Divine realms?
4bluefaeries: so I take it this is no map to Helm's deep? lol
Akelta: @Chathound good question, Divinity Demons have their own series of realms whereas Devotion Demons have their own realm which is actually really close to source. @Blue, no it is quite complicated
Christian: I think the devotionals have a monestary?
Akelta: @Christian, yes they do, they are very pure and devoted to what they do.
ChatHound: Devotionals are AMAZING. Mine has become pretty much my guru. Excellent guide!
Akelta: awww that is awesome!
4bluefaeries: can prince or princess marry like cousins? to keep the blood lines strong?
Akelta: @Blue, they look at things differently up there, they tend to marry for love.
Akelta: Examples of Demons Princes Prince Vassago Prince Sitri
MagicWand-a: marry cousins... where I come from thats illegal! lol
Heidi: wow, now that's a big change! Considering how few people actually marry for love in our realm, even at this day and age
ChatHound: Where I come from, it's Uncle Momma and Aunt Daddy.
MagicWand-a: ROFL
4bluefaeries: so not to be gross, just wondering because the immortals and incest to keep the blood lines, nevermind
Heidi: Wanda, you've met all the cool people out there!
MagicWand-a: oh yes. i always think of you when I study him. i keep meaning to tell you that LOL
eLuceo: marry for love, work for passion..... heck! us human realm is hell
TheTerranSystem: hello theoretically what is the highest Demon you can bind to a vessel?
ChatHound: Blue, genetics is a problem...I don't think it applies in energetic situations.
Akelta: LOL!!, Demons they see things differently. @TErran, a Son or Daughter of Satan. @Chat, yes this is true, energy is different.
4bluefaeries: not trying to be gross,just thinking our laws and morals don't apply to them
MagicWand-a: oh blue it was a good and valid question I was just playing with you!
TheTerranSystem: Is that in Royalty, or Divine Demon section of the store?
Akelta: @Terran, Son and Daughters we usually list then at rare intervals as they are different to conjure and bind, if you are interested in a custom, please feel free to send me an email.
TheTerranSystem: They have the higher energy connection than a DC, or a Demon General right?
eLuceo: @Terran it all comes down to if both your energy is compatible, not so much on the "ranks" per se
Akelta: @Terran, They can be incredibly powerful. Royal Demon Commander might be another you want to look at, though I can find sons and daughters who are also royal commander, so best of both worlds.
TheTerranSystem: Right. I'm still bonding with my DC right now.
Galadraal: so Akelta, Satan is the most powerful demon then if his children are the most powerful you bind?
Akelta: @Galadraal, well some say his Wives are the most powerful, hehe, but yes in Demonolatry Satan is the all and from my experience he is the most powerful
TheTerranSystem: So can a Demon have sexual interaction with a human being and have some sort of human hereditary/demon offspring
Galadraal: Are there ranks of the Demon Lords? as in most powerful? like Satan, Lucifer, Leviathan, etc?
MagicWand-a: Galadraal to my knowledge, in demonolatry Satan is considered the All however the other lords, or 9 Demonic Divines are pretty much level in power. they all do different things
4bluefaeries: can a wives of the dark lords be bound
Heidi: I always wondered if it would be considered a conflict of energies somehow, if one got a son or daughter of Satan while not working or planning to work with Satan himself
Akelta: @Terran, not in my experience, they can help to influence the energies of the baby though. Remember Demons are true form, we are technically in a human vessel, but that is a whole other topic. @Blue, a binding can be made of any demon, but I know his wives dont like to even be known.
Galadraal: I guess for my path, it makes sense the last of your shop workings I got was the Satan one
Just moving up and up 4bluefaeries: aww so if ever a connection would be made it would be through that dark lord then?
Akelta: @Blue, It has taken me Many years to meet only a fraction of their wives or spouses, they do have their personal life
Akelta: Grand Dukes and Grand Duchesses and Dukes and Duchesses - Serve under the Ruling Demon Monarchy of that realm and assist with different tasks and organizing the overall structure of that realm. With regards to Grand Dukes and Duchesses This title is similar to Duke and Duchess, the difference is more of a promotional and distinguished factor them an actual change of duties.
Galadraal: what about Servitors?
TheTerranSystem: If sun is a place where forces of hell live, then where do the celestial divine live of the light?
Akelta: @Terran, that is not how I see it, the outer spiritual world is of a different structure it is vast and complex and there is actually chat notes on the different realms of the spiritual world
Galadraal: Aren't or weren't they originally made from a clay and brought to life like a golem?
Akelta: @Galadraal, that is a Golem servitor, as I said servitors are a whole topic in themselves
ChatHound: So, Satan is considered First among Equals sort of thing? I can understand that.
eLuceo: Satan sits at the Divine Council if i remember from our previous chat
MagicWand-a: yes chathound but hes a bit more than that.
Akelta: I call Satan the Father of demons, lol yes. He does indeed sit on the divine council
4bluefaeries: Will lord Satan ever retire?
MagicWand-a: No blue
Christian: Divine council?
Akelta: Known Demon Dukes are (According to the Ars Goetia) - Duke Agares Duke Valefar Duke Barbatos Duke Gusion Duke Eligos
Galadraal: that's why he likes "Father" and not grand dad
eLuceo: Father sounds protective and fatherly, granpa sounded so...."old"
MagicWand-a: Gusion is an EXCELLENT demon to work with when you are doing introspective work, he really does hold up a mirror to you and sort of point out where you need to work on things to progress to the next level spiritual wise
Akelta: Ok next on the Demon Ranks, Counts and Countesses - The count and the countesses can be responsible for the individual armies of a specific realm and also coordinating the political side with the Demon Commanders. Whereas commanders and generals can be exceptionally militant counts can also take into account their individual realm and its needs and coordinate efforts in a way that is beneficial for both. They also can command their own personal legions and can be charged with the protection of an area of a realm.
MagicWand-a: Is there a number of legions specifically they would command or oversee Akelta?
Akelta: @Wanda, it varies. Examples of Counts in Literature. Count/President Botis Count Andromalius. Ok, Marquis - Often more militant in mind then a count, they are similar to a count except for the fact that marquis have displayed an overall understanding of protection and defence and are quite capable of arranging strategic defences for their areas. Examples of known demon marquis are. Marquis Samigina Marquis Aamon Marquis Leraje. Any questions on the Demon ranks so far?
Eilana: how many Demons are in a legion?
Galadraal: When you list your demons, I mostly see DCs
Akelta: @Galadraal, yes I do tend to enjoy working with the commanders
4bluefaeries: because of their ranks, are they well financally ?
Akelta: @Eilana, great question, it varies, some legions can have 1000s of troops, while more specialized ones can have a smaller number, the smallest legion I encountered was only 20 demons. @Blue, most demons realms are financially well off
darkstarfyre: Do they have air planes tanks etc. equivalents?
eLuceo: army, navy or airforce?
Galadraal: 20? I would have thought it would be at least 1000 like, "my name is legion for I am many"
Galadraal:
I had no idea there were so many different levels. I'm still really very new to all of this
4bluefaeries: same here Galadraal
Akelta: the legion with 20, they were incredibly specialized, like super specialized
eLuceo: elite demolition squad, elite assasin squad, elite spy sqaud, mostly might just be a few people
Akelta: There are specialized well ranks and other titles like Demon assasins, Demon Mages, Black Flame Masters.
Heidi: demon mages <3
Galadraal: I'd be interested in hearing more about the mages but I guess that's another topic
Heidi: I'd love to see a few mages listed again *hint hint*
Akelta: Demons have an incredible power to them, a lot notice there is a difference in their power level, they are also true form beings so they have access to some incredible abilities
Galaadral: I love my Black Flame masters, I've been using the one a bunch lately
Heidi: black flame masters are amazing
ChatHound: Agreed, Black Flame Masters rock! Such hard working guys.
Eilana: I wanna hear about Demon Knights <3
MagicWand-a: Eilana you just want a knight in shining armor to ... wait we are keeping this clean
Eilana: how did you know what I did with my knights? rofl
Akelta: @Eilana, Demon Knights, Divinity Demons have them in their realms. They are warriors and very powerful.
Eilana: @Akelta, ah so you have met some <3 I wondered if they were only in Divinity Demon realms or in others as well
Akelta: @Eilana, they are in other realms also, but the divinity ones I know best
TheTerranSystem: Wow there are so many subsets of each being to enrap my mind around it is just really hard
eLuceo: @Terran i think the energy wavelength and intensity differs from each entities, hence some are darker, some are lighter dark, some are more "grey", some
are lighter shade of grey, some of whiter, etc
TheTerranSystem: There must be trillions of spirits beings
Akelta: @Terran, yeah it is a lot ot take in, the spiritual world is larger and more massive than the known universe, what is out there can be hard to fathom.
Galadraal: yes, it is difficult to comprehend
TheTerranSystem: Yes and earth has tens of millions of physical realm species just here. Imagine another planet
Akelta: @Terran, exactly
eLuceo: bubble machine, always churning out new reams
4bluefaeries: well one can never get lonely,lol
Akelta: @eLuceo that is another element, the element of creation and beings being able to create and craft new realms
MagicWand-a: I want a legionaire
eLuceo: @wanda to do what? hehe
Heidi: I want someone to arrange a date with Paimon on my behalf, lol not a date date, a let's drink a cup of coffee together kind of date
Akelta: I do apologize I am going to have to leave at 8, as I have a lot of stuff to get done and emails to send out, but does anyone have any questions?
Eilana: I'm good <3
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