Satan and Suns

I have noticed in my480 pdf files i have about 20 or so luciferian and satanic self initiations. one from Tsirk Susej, from the Demonic Bible, and one from the Joy of Satan- and afew differant ones from Michael W (I amaVampire!!!)Ford.
I am trying hard, but I am frustrated as when I was a youth, satan demons angels spirits would pop in on me any time any where. when I was in my 30's and slowly loosing my former xtian bent and looking into the LHP- it almost can to a total halt. So I am wanting to blast the walls down and now I want satan and all these demons I kicked out and had very violents send offs with to forgive me and lets now work. After all- if they are coming to me without summoning or being thought of or wanted- there must be a reason; well now I am abit more wise and stable and not likely to mindlesslycomprimise myself. Now I am as close to Ipsissimus as can humanly be- and prime candidate who can with knowledge and authority call upon them and "Enlist". Although I did have someone (on the other side) say I was ordained before I came to earth which "gives me standing in either court" so lets jam!
I have been working on summoning Belial hoping when I get things good with him, perhaps he can help me get Abigor and Abbadon. Abigor chose me to be mentored by him- but i said no; rudely. I did not know what I was doing- I was being a valiant xtian; not a smart one! Abigor, i am on my knees come back!!!

Anyone who knows good Purification and renuciation rituals; self initiations anything- I will be happy to work them.
Hail Hell!

What is most important when working in any of these ritual its the intent behind it. Also you can speak truthly of your heart.

for me personally, i would suggest throwing any ritual on self initiation in teh garbage. Heres why: if you are initiating yourself and not part of a structured coven initiation process, you should always go with what feels right from you. Its in there, you will know what you should do. its ok to read the rituals available, pick the bits you like then throw the rest away. Make your own ritual. there really is nothing more powerful than your own heartfelt dedication. the energy is pure as its straight from you, the words are YOURS , not just recited, and your intent is there. A self dedication ritual should be a statement. " I am doing this for YOU because i want to dedicate my life to YOU." it doesnt need to be fancy, Just from the heart. Therein lies the true magick

I agree with Wanda. Since we're talking about self initiation (therefore there is no power transfer due to being initiated into a group that has a long standing relationship with a particular deity but just a personal statement and commitment of sorts) I believe that making your own ritual would be better. I see that you mention your issue is that you "closed the door" to particular entities in the past and this is what you're trying to rectify by these self initiations. I would be inclined to recommend, instead of a series of self initiations, that you make a ritual where you'll address all the beings you want to address and talk to them from your heart. Tell them about your journey, why you closed them out in the past, what you've learnt and what you've realized since then etc. Then explain what you want now from your path and from them, what kind of relationship you're expecting to form with them etc.

Self initiations don't usually cause immediate noticeable effects anyway (unless you've already developed a very strong relationship with the deity and they have told you that making things formal like that will open up opportunities for you immediately) so I recommend the above approach because this will give all the entities involved a chance to hear you out, decide what they believe about you right now (if they understand why you closed them out in the past, if they believe you've learnt enough since then and that you're truly ready to work with them now etc) and come up with more specific suggestions for you. It is essentially making amends and opening the way for so that the ones more interested in you can come forth and guide you from that point into accomplishing your goals in the best possible way for you.

Actually I agree with both of you. "Tayloring the rituals and personalising them was something I forgot to put in there. I am also- when I feel "approved to do so"- and working to also personalise sigils which I want to have them blend with me and the particulr Entity i am working with. I won't do it unless I feel the entity is approving of it. But there are some Demos which I feel as if a few hours without having their name pass through my mental processing would really annoy me. I feel 'homesick?' for them and their company.
Now ; as for the Coven issue. I HATE THIS STATE !!! Missouri- means "misery'. i would so love a coven to meet and work with; i am firstly very solitary- and prefer to be alone- but I also enjoy people every once in a while. I am a 32 degree Mason- love meeting once a month (except for the christianity force feed really sux!). I am working in a letter to the U S Grand Lodge asking if there are any masonic lodges where all are basic Demonolaters- but it is kept real hush hush for media sake. I am sure what the answer will be- "NO!", then in 20 years I will find out I was lied to.sigh. But the one thing I have also been having go through my mind is the issue that Masonry has dozens of smaller groups in what they call "The Masonic Family" -
which i will work to try and create an order for Demonolaters- Hell they got a "Hillbilly Rite" so you can get drunk and act like a backwoods lowlife moron- why not something worth while like "Demonic Kings Rite"?. Or be really crazy and make a Palladium Rite?
If any of you know of any people in missouri- or Tennessee where I am heading ASAP- in Demonolatry I would love a referance to someone. I have been trying to work with Stephanie Connolly- but it is as impossible as hyperventilating underwater getting much of any info from her. They are extremely hesitant- probably for good reason- about doing much to create functional growth. I don't wanna run the show- just enjoy the company.
I love you for replying to me and have a strong feeling we can create good meeting and working units.
Well, disturbance calls- more l8r!
Demonic Glory!

Heidi wrote:I agree with Wanda. Since we're talking about self initiation (therefore there is no power transfer due to being initiated into a group that has a long standing relationship with a particular deity but just a personal statement and commitment of sorts) I believe that making your own ritual would be better. I see that you mention your issue is that you "closed the door" to particular entities in the past and this is what you're trying to rectify by these self initiations. I would be inclined to recommend, instead of a series of self initiations, that you make a ritual where you'll address all the beings you want to address and talk to them from your heart. Tell them about your journey, why you closed them out in the past, what you've learnt and what you've realized since then etc. Then explain what you want now from your path and from them, what kind of relationship you're expecting to form with them etc.

Self initiations don't usually cause immediate noticeable effects anyway (unless you've already developed a very strong relationship with the deity and they have told you that making things formal like that will open up opportunities for you immediately) so I recommend the above approach because this will give all the entities involved a chance to hear you out, decide what they believe about you right now (if they understand why you closed them out in the past, if they believe you've learnt enough since then and that you're truly ready to work with them now etc) and come up with more specific suggestions for you. It is essentially making amends and opening the way for so that the ones more interested in you can come forth and guide you from that point into accomplishing your goals in the best possible way for you.

One thing I have noticed lately- is just how much "Subtle Initiation" I have 'put myself through[with the help of all the unseen hands] just by researching study effort and whatever actual 'self initiations' I have done. You all too often do not see it or feel it, it may go totally un-noticed by all of your senses ; bu then the day comes when someone close to you may ask 'why, what, how, whatever- it may be the simplest of q's; and when you go to answer it- you realise quite unsettlingly- you will be speaking advanced Astro Chenmical Particle Physics in chinese to - for all practical purposes; and infant with a binky in their mouth. not to sound over inflated or pompous- but just the last few months with my wife has shown that- sometimes even the simplest of issues- cannot be communicated and allow a actual transfer of knowledge- unless the recipient has Also Become Initiated to a degree so that they "have eyes to see and ears to hear" - and just reading does not do it.
i have taught- from the age of 15; most often Priesthood- of 'Higher Rank' than I-with that insideous binky also oft times, until my 40's when I finally said screw it- I quit ans now am going to sit quietly (yeah---RRrrright!) and be taught. ( is that a jumbo jet heading into a mountain i hear?) But for the most part I have been fairly good at it. my wife is anything but a barbie head- but too damn often when it comes time for her to ask me a question- which to me is too simple to even deserve an answer- we both throw in the towel as he just does not get it- (she has not" died and also killed" and buried her years long acquired "Translational filters", and no amount of my talent can get the data 'downline to her in a language and manner -and experiance?- she understands. The other day- when i was looking at one of my twins- who is not dumb- and her and knowing they look at me- "The Powerful Profound High Priest Theologian" "Now a Demonolater- who does not did jezuz and yhwh very much any more?" and knowing they want too ask me 1000 q's, I want to give them 10,000 answers- but yelling across the chasm of the grand canyon of life will just be a waste of time unless they can make it to me- or I Will somehow traverse the space time continuum to them-(and I ain't/can't)
Suddenly- I clearly see and realize Huge Powerful Initiation. It is not so much a person is put under an Oath of Secrecy- as unless the receiver has also been initiated- there can be no transmission of 'Secrets" . I am also not in a position to 'recruit them'- they have to not only 'see-if even by imagination- the meal; but ferociously pursue it under their Own Will.
And weirdest of all- no matter how Initiated I am- I now see; with every star in the sky- no matter which ones I can point out-there are so many more which prove- "I got next to nuthin- just keep on truckin man!"
I do wish I could bridge the gap- but it ain't up to me!

darkstarfyre wrote:What is most important when working in any of these ritual its the intent behind it. Also you can speak truthly of your heart.