Akelta: For those of you who haven't been to a chat party before we do have topics that we discuss, this one is Demonic Families and family structures, though we do like keep things casual and questions are always welcome.
4bluefaeries: Akelta most demons follow a dark lord but is it possible one follows none?
Akelta: There are lots of I guess they would be called civilian demons. Who are not in the core army, though some live in various realms overseen by different demonic royalty.
Akelta: Ok so lets start. I know there is not a lot written on the family side of demons as most people tend to just focus on what they are capable of and their rank, though even their ranks are not fully understood and clear. So lets start with a question, what do you know about demonic families.
DoubleD: for me, my knowledge of their structure is limited but I understand the principles of it . Are they like human families, in that they do what they want even if their parents, so to speak, say no , or are they pretty structurally solid ?
4bluefaeries: they are loving and take their families to heart,like lord Satan loves all his children and grand and great grandchildren , but depending the race because Hellborns are sometimes abandoned, not sure if I got that right though
luna: They're large and lively, and they seem to function as groups more so than our society
Akelta: They are very large and lively and this is very true Luna, they do function as a group more than our society. They are very close and they do have structures similar to how it is here. Though yes it does vary by species.
darkstarfyre: Do cross species interbreed common enough?
Akelta: There are different species of demons and hybrids yes it actually does happen quite a bit.
darkstarfyre: Lol unlike us who is more racially separated.
Akelta: I was going to focus on three different species of demons for this discussion , the Noble demons , the Mutilation Demons , and the Hellborn Demons. Some of you might not have all the details of the species so we will be going through the basics of them.
DoubleD: cool, i like starting with foundations
Akelta: Noble demons, if you look at the spiritual world, it is interesting in structure, it doesn't just go dark below and light above, there are places in the upper spiritual world that are darker energies, and the noble realm is actually in the upper portion of the outer spiritual world. The Noble realm is a very beautiful place of high vibrational darkness and actually where Lord Satan resides.
darkstarfyre: darker as in close to darker divinity?
Akelta: Yes, exactly Darkstar! in Demonolatry Satan is the Dark Divine, and thus that realm is close to Divinity.
4bluefaeries: do they have trees in this realm and grass?
darkstarfyre: What about the celesital constellations? Stars, moons, suns?
Akelta: The thing with the spiritual world, the outer spiritual world, is it has anything we have here and more. There are many realms and sub realms to with various structures and forms and it depends on where you are. The Noble realm though is very beautiful and very high vibrational, and the demonics there are of a more high vibrational energy. They are wise and beautiful demons to work with.
WanderingOracle: Do Prisons also exist in the Noble Realm?
Akelta: They have areas that would be seen as prison like though many more energy detainment places are in the lower realms.
DoubleD: Actually this may be a duh question, but is this for Dukante or Goetic, or something totally outside of that or do they actually follow that? maybe that's just a human categorization?
luna: Yes I believe thats more of a human categorization of forces outside of us, a framework laid out for magicians instead of a framework that was previously established
Anatel: dukante was shown around the hell realms but he never got to finish his grimoires and he didnt get to the point of categorizing the realms though he did talk about there being many out there
Akelta: We categorize them the best we can, they are multidimentional beings and sometimes it is hard to put it into words. I have spend years doing it and some days I am like.. I dont know what to do with it
4bluefaeries: are humans allowed in the Nobel realm? or does one need permission?
Akelta: @ Blue I have been to the noble realm.
4bluefaeries: yeah but you're you,lol
darkstarfyre: what are the difference between higher realms like noble realms and lower realms like the mutilation realms, or even crypt realm.
Akelta: the noble realm is actually away from the hell realms. so there are even more demonic realms then even just the hell realms. @dark, energy vibrations is a big one. It will be interesting when we get to the mutilation realm today as they are very much opposite of the Noble demons. Lord Satan actually is a Noble Demon, he is the first noble demon and the Father and Lord of the Demonic Divine. He also does oversee the other demonic realms who are part of the core group.
DoubleD: When you work with someone in a specific family structure, does the rest of the family know about it? Do they talk about it ?
Akelta: @DD I have been introduced to other members of the family and yes you can get to know a whole family of demons
DoubleD: That's cool Akelta: it is fascinating at times to see who is connected to who . I like family structure.
Akelta: I like family structure too DD I like learning about them and their personal selves
darkstarfyre: like this his realm must be very stable. Since from what I know some of the realms had changing rules and dynasties I believe.
Akelta: @Dark, depends on the realm, since they are immortal new realms arise but many of the older realms are established and ruled by their dark lord.
4bluefaeries: would lord Satan prefer to be called emperor Satan? because he is the highest ranking demon?
Akelta: Emperor is a title Satan could go by yes
luna: Does this mean that all noble demons have ties to Lord Satan or is it much more complex considering the span of time and where it could have branched out?
Akelta: @Luna, great question, no, the core family was started from satan, but just like he was formed by divinity many others did to, there are quite a few family lines in the noble realm.
4bluefaeries: are female equally treated vs males?
Akelta: @ Blue, sexuality and the masculine and feminine balance is different up there and much more balanced then it is down here.
Akelta: The noble demons have a very beautiful society and their structure among families is actually very close and connected. There are the ruling members and there are actually quite a few royal families , the royal demonic families are very close and families tend to stick together.
DoubleD: all sounds similar to the djinn, which are another form of demon.
4bluefaeries: why everytime I think of the Nobel realm I think of Italy, relaxing calm beautiful
darkstarfyre: Yet Italy is the birthplace of one of the strongest historic empire.
Heidi: ok, that's weird cause I also had an image in my mind regarding a part of the Noble realm and it looked like a more refined version of Florence
Phlan: I just picture the realm looking like Rivendale from LoTR
Akelta: That is cool it is very beautiful yeah like the LOTR scenery and Italy
darkstarfyre: what other name does lord satan have? Since satan is a title. And what does it means in the family?
Akelta: Satan is his name, his name just also is a title, but the Demonic Lord and the Demonic divine is Lord satan, some other demons though have satan as a title.
darkstarfyre: Is the family nuclear or clan-like? Tribe like. Or like feudal nobility and monarchy.
Akelta: They families do stick together like clans, though many of the families have connections. Like Lord Belial's Family and Lord Satan's family have ties
4bluefaeries: are humans allowed walking freely there? or does one need an escort?
Akelta: I had an escourt, and didnt see any other humans.
Heidi: do you usually see many humans in other places you visit?
Akelta: Some of the lower realms and other earths LOL I have seen other humans
darkstarfyre: escort. Are you sure not lover add in as well
Akelta: @Dark, lol you know me to well LOL
Heidi: "you're gonna give me a tour of your realm and protect me while we're there or I'm staying dressed for the rest of the day!"
DoubleD: of course they could just rip your clothes off,
Akelta: @DD and they often do LOL
Heidi: they can rip my clothes off sure, I'd just like a hint they might do that so that I don't wear something I really like
4bluefaeries: but it's got to be rare to find your way there?
Akelta: @Blue, where the noble realm?
4bluefaeries: yeah!
Akelta: oh navigating the upper realms is impossible cause it is massive, you can get lost so easily
4bluefaeries: I still have no clue how I made it to Hellborn realm once
Akelta: @ Blue the hellborn realm is just as massive and exists in the lower realms. well actually the hell realms is a different vibrational plain all together.
Heidi: I have no freaking idea if I've ever been to any of the demonic realms. ok, scratch that, I've been to some of the solar realms.
4bluefaeries: do they wear clothing in the Noble realm or do they prefer nudity?
darkstarfyre: demons are nudists
Akelta: @Blue, it depends on the demon, though I do see a lot clothed. They have no shame though LOL
darkstarfyre: how does it compare to the djinn realms and where do the imps stand in the family structure?
Akelta: @Dark, the realms that the djinn reside, well some species co live in different realms, like you might find some djinn in fae realms, many of the djinn I know of are in desert regions. Imps are a different species altogether, some have Demonic dark energy in them and others do not depending on where you get the imp from and the place it resides.
darkstarfyre: I see, no wonder djinns originate in the arabian peninsula mostly.
DoubleD: Imps are interesting, I don't think I have ever come across one actually. maybe i have
Heidi: djinn in the fae realms??? now that's something I haven't come across yet!
DoubleD: @heidi, lots has been researched and written that they could be the same species , very similar traits, personalities etc
Heidi: @DoubleD, it depends on what you use to classify them. To me, they're very different.
Akelta: I personally dont think that fae and djinn are the same, but that is just how they feel to me.
DoubleD: Sure, I don't classify either way, it's just what has been researched
4bluefaeries: they are different but they do tend to have hybrids too though
DoubleD: i work with djinn, love them in fact but honestly don't' know a thing about the fae, it's only hearing people talk that work with fae, and reading the research that has gotten me looking into that more
Heidi: I work with both djinn and fae. Sure there are some species that may have similarities, though I haven't met a djinn that made me think "fairy!" or the other way around. I've met demons that remind me of the fae though, and definitely djinn that remind me of demons a lot.
Akelta: I like studying the different energies vibrations and breaking down their energies, that was actually where I realized what Demonic Dark Energy was, or DDE the energy that is in all demons
luna: Its hard to have concrete research in terms of the metaphysical though, it's all going to be quantified based on what the person perceives and that can vary depending on a lot of other factors and their own abilities with energy reading
4bluefaeries: so when you travelled to the Noble realm Akelta,shouldn't it be loaded with deceased humans?
Anatel: why would it be loaded with deceased humans?
4bluefaeries: well don't some choose to go prefer hellrealm over heaven?
Akelta: @blue, the higher spiritual realms are separate from the dead realms, the dead realms actually reside below our realm of existence while the noble realm is above. Also when we return to the outer spiritual world we return to our true form.
Heidi: theoretically though, can't we chose to spend some time in the Noble realms (if we're allowed to stay there) after death? I mean, dead means a particular incarnation has ended, you don't have to get stuck with the 'dead" for long if you don't feel like it.
Akelta: @Heidi - yes, but you would be in your true form.
Heidi: yeah, that's what I meant Akelta. I just put it in a way less elegant way, lol
darkstarfyre: demonic, celestial and all sorts of energetic interactions and politics, man so interesting.
Akelta: It is really interesting Dark , I love looking into it and researching it and really I have only scratched the surface and many of the places I have been lucky to get into with invitations and knowing certain demons
Anatel: i see that realm like a gated community lol
Akelta: @Anatel yes some places are like a gated community the way up to Satan's Palace is well LOL like a guarded gated community
Phlan: When you travel to the realms do you look like your physical self? Or do you look like your true self if they look different in the first place
Akelta: @Phlan I actually take on more of an appearance like my true form.
4bluefaeries: so if I have no demonic energy in my true form would I be denied to go to the Noble realm?
Akelta: @ Blue, there are places you can walk around. You dont need to have DDE to go to the noble realm
4bluefaeries: yay because I sure would love to visit lord Satans palace one day with his permission
darkstarfyre: How do they handle their dead in the outer spiritual realms? Like a cemetery and wait for them to reborn or like literally revive?
Akelta: @dark the dead are a concept of the inner spiritual world, they tend to be handled in the dead realms, where if their origin is from the noble realm they return home in a matter of speaking
WanderingOracle: So, when it comes to these various realms, who exactly creates them?
Heidi: weird question: all you people who take your true forms while traveling, do you like, look at yourselves in a mirror or something? Cause I never remember exactly how I look cause it just feels natural to me and I don't bother to check carefully so that I can remember when I come back.
Akelta: @Heidi - I have horns and wings, and blue purple eyes.
Heidi: @Akelta- It looks like you're stunning in all your forms
4bluefaeries: see Akelta is a beautiful human and demon!!!!!
Akelta: awwww thank you Heidi <333 and thank you DD and Blue <333
Phlan: That's cool! I want to see my true self one day
Akelta: I also have downloaded images of myself from the archives which you can get a lot of information on yourself from the archives
Heidi: if you don't end up in the archives' storage facilities... I know I'm much taller and very blonde and I have wings, but other than that I'm too busy doing stuff to bother with how I look.
DoubleD: I have been told by those that can see me there that I am tall and super bright white with electric blue eyes
Akelta: awww Heidi you sound beautiful, @DD that sounds beautiful!
Heidi: I don't really know Akelta, it looks like I'm kinda deadly for no reason so I have other things on my mind while in true form.
Akelta: @Heidi - deadly can be beautiful too
luna: deadly is stunning! The true self fascinates me almost maddeningly so,
Akelta: @Luna, yes me too I was so fascinated with myself in my true form and it unlocked so many puzzle pieces
luna: hehe, the beautiful journey into the self
darkstarfyre: Do they frolic with other divinities like the ancient celtic, nordic gods and greek gods? Are the gods demons?
Akelta: @Dark great questions, they do have connections to other pantheons, like I know Hades oversees the dead has connections to different demons. I call some of them Demon Gods as they have the power of the gods and are basically yeah Demonic gods.. Like Satan
4bluefaeries: I bet lord satan has so many books it's unreal!!!!
Akelta: @blue he has a big library
Heidi: Does any group have strong connections to Mercury?
DoubleD: Some of the Sumerian gods do, Egyptian gods, ties with Mercury. Actually many do,
Akelta: @Heidi - Mercury I am sure some of them do
4bluefaeries: Mercury the planet or the man god?
Heidi: Mercury the Roman god, though the lines between the two are blurry really. I'm asking cause he crushed the chat party tonight and I don't really know why.
Anatel: who crushed the chat party?
Heidi: @Anatel, I was in the chatroom for two hours but when I actually came back for the party, I had been kicked out and couldn't sign back in. After more than 15 minutes of trying everything I could, I called Mercury for help to log in and the moment I logged in BAM, full vision. And he's still watching. Not saying why other than "he has connections"
Anatel: sounds like he saved it for you not crushed it! LOL
Phlan: Other question so when demons see you in our world do they see the true self or you?
Akelta: @Phlan yes they do see our energies and us as a whole, who we are here and our true forms
Anatel: ok, can i ask about the family structure? seems to me like they have typical matriarch, patriarch then offspring?
Akelta: @Anatel, great question, in the noble realm especially in the Royal families they do have heads of the house, but also heads of the family and usually that falls on the eldest and the start of their line.
darkstarfyre: what about the beings called titans? How are they related to the demons?
Akelta: @Dark, they feel different to me, the titans do
darkstarfyre: Man I like the demons way of doing things, they speed up things a lot. other mainstream gods can mah take a long time no improvement. Too spiritual. Demons everything in one big package.
4bluefaeries: ok can demons get drunk?
Akelta: @Blue, many of them I have met avoid alcohol.
4bluefaeries: yeah I imagine Chaos demons drinking only
DoubleD: The Necronomicon ones, especially Marduk like alcohol as do the Kemetic but drunk? I doubt it, i see them as very in control . But i have learned, know your demon and know their alcohol choice
Akelta: I actually know one demon who is offended by alcohol LOL
4bluefaeries: really I see lord Satan drinking wine for dinner
Akelta: @blue, he is actually one of the ones who is offended LOL
Heidi: really?
Akelta: yeah
Heidi: ok, I need to make a mental note of who's offended my alchohol cause I always include alchohol in my general offerings
4bluefaeries: wow you learn something new everyday!
DoubleD: it makes sense, it's important to know your audience , they will let you know
Akelta: offerings are offerings, he just told me that one day and also just how opposed his Son V was to it was hinting. @DD yes, it is, some will like some offerings and others will not
DoubleD: yep, i have learned for sure , Marduk likes top shelf scotch and yes he knows the difference
4bluefaeries: good to know though,what offends some and others prefer
darkstarfyre: then what lord satan drink at family parties? Fruit Juice?
Akelta: @Dark, there are many ways to enjoy yourself without drinking. Energies and things carry far more feelings and sensations then drinks ever can.
darkstarfyre: Yeah at family gatherings what are the activities, food and drinks available?
Akelta: @dark oh that is a huge question the event I was at there was a lot of food but I didnt pay attention I was looking at all the demons that were around
DoubleD: I also use Beer since ancient Sumer drank beer and worshipped the gods with beer
Heidi: yeah, it's just that when they're general offerings to pretty much everyone, I don't always know who doesn't like something until I get smucked, lol
DoubleD: I tend to follow what the culture did, what they offered, and follow suit and they will like it or not, I just make sure never to do it again if not. All of mine love brownies, dark chocolate brownies . I make pretty elaborate meals, it's all in the preparation , i plate perfectly , colors etc , many of them also like flowers
darkstarfyre: Nice prepare for all senses.
Akelta: LOL dark chocolate is a pretty safe offering
4bluefaeries: they tend to stay in perfect shape ,so I imagine they eat pretty healthy
Akelta: @Blue, many of them do. I know that working with demons I am ALWAYS encouraged to eat healthy and partake in healthy habits . oh and water, everyone of them gets on my case for not drinking enough water LOL
DoubleD: @akelta, agreed, I am pretty good, i eat super healthy, hardly drink, don't do drugs or anything and I work out a lot DoubleD: and things are more smooth when I stick to that
Heidi: ok, everyone please ask your demons for recipes!
DoubleD: The children and offspring stuff is fascinating, is it spirits or energies they give birth too? Or is it about one entity splitting into two
Akelta: @DD - that is a good question, they are actually creating a spark of life in itself in the outer spiritual world, it is like giving of themselves to create a new life force it's really fascinating to explore and learn about . I have seen them give birth to new life yes
4bluefaeries: baby demons OMG soooooooooooooo adorable
Akelta: @Blue they are cute
DoubleD: I imagine them like the little vampires in Van Helsing
darkstarfyre: Yeah do they have tough love, find excuse and a good fight and brawl to bond? lol.
Akelta: So the families in the noble realm, the generations they stick together and they for the most part stay together and help each other. They are pretty tight with each other.
WanderingOracle: What are some of the laws in the Noble Realm?
Akelta: @Oracle it is one of the more oderly demonic realms, they do try to make sure that things are orderly and safe, though they are beings of a darker energy so obviously things happen.
darkstarfyre: do they have gyms clubs and other entertainment facilities. Aka human urban entertainment activities.
DoubleD: @ dark, you mean like brothels
Akelta: LOL!!!!!!!
darkstarfyre: included
Akelta: there are lots of activities up there, probably what we have down here and more as there are many other inner spiritual world realms out there with different activities, so there are many many activities to do up there . I tend to spend all my time interviewing them and asking them questions
4bluefaeries: are they big on sports? and do they have celebrities like we do?
Akelta: @Blue I have been to the fighting matches, they have various things they do. Some demons are very high ranking and well known .
Anatel: ok so the families... as they go down the line, ie great grandchildren great greats, etc of dark lords or the head of whatever household, does their abilities decrease as well? like the further down the bloodline they go i mean.
Heidi: I'd imagine it would depend on their genes and their choices
Akelta: @Anatel, their abilities dont decrease, they just are younger so they dont have as much experience as their elders. And as they grow and the older they gain more experience.
darkstarfyre: Since Lord Satan is a establish demon, does he lord over other species as well? Example lady lilith is sometimes called a demon or a vampire but she has both under her.
Akelta: @Dark, I see her as a Vampire, Lord Satan does control the core army and that consists of many demon species though the Demonic Council contains demonic lords of night Calibur from many different species.
darkstarfyre: lol demonic version of NATO. no one in the right mind would cause trouble.
Akelta: @Dark YES LOL
Heidi: @Akelta-really? I see her as.... I don't even know exactly.
Akelta: @Heidi yeah she was very vampirish when I met her. The Realm she is from is around where the Noble realm is so she is a high caliber being.
4bluefaeries: Lilith is pure vampire from the Underworld , she does have lord Samael by her side
Akelta: she is married to Samael
4bluefaeries: I know lol he's a real hottie!!
darkstarfyre: So lord samuel what do you see him as, as there is a lot of conflicting information, his species his family and lands
Heidi: i'd like to hear the answer to that
Akelta: @Dark, he is one who carries the title as Satan, I need to species him. But he is very high ranking and has deep connections to the demons. We should move on to the Hellborn realm
Anatel: love the hellborns. or at least MY hellborn lol so dirty haha
4bluefaeries: I got 4 and they are quite naughty!!,lol
darkstarfyre: what kind of pets they mostly prefer.
4bluefaeries: naked humans
Akelta: Pet? lol I have seen Hellhounds, Hellcats and many many other things. Some things i have no idea what they are , some things that are adorable!
Heidi: adorable adorable, or adorable with 3 hidden sets of sharp teeth adorable?
Akelta: @Heidi.. ummm LOL adorable with 3 hidden sets of sharp teeth
Heidi: makes sense, lol
darkstarfyre: who are the hellborn demon lords that are commonly known?
Akelta: @Dark, the Hellborn lords I have met are not know n. Their realm is very interesting, it is the opposite of the Noble realm in many ways .
4bluefaeries: it's dark hot and metal and rock
Akelta: The Hellborn demons are a very fascinating group. They exist in the hell realms and their realm is very volcanic and feiry
Heidi: so the hellborns actually live in hell, lol
Akelta: @ heidi yes! they do, it is beautiful in it's own way though . Many of the places have various colours of lava and there are different plants and beautiful things.
4bluefaeries: I remember seeing in my dream, inner structure very stunning higher in the ground pillars and lots of metal cages yes for humans
Heidi: The place doesn't sound so bad (to visit, not to live there). It's the inhabitants that make me reluctant to go there.
Akelta: The hellborns themselves are quite violent and like to fight
4bluefaeries: very hot heads but passionate too
Akelta: many of them lack a formal family structure and are raised in compounds by older hellborns. Not many of the common ones know who their parents are
4bluefaeries: they grow up having to learn to be strong or not survive , I hope I can revisit inside again it was interesting to visit
darkstarfyre: chaos or hellborne more violent?
luna: different types of violence lol
Akelta: @Dark, Hellborns are more open and aggressive about it, Chaos will stab you in the back
Heidi: you know, every time we talk about the hellborn realms I just want to hug my hellborn and whisper to him "shhhhh, everything will be fine!" lol
Akelta: There is a lot of violence in the hellborn realms, it is a fascinating place. There are some hellborns that are family oriented though and many of the royal families stick together
DoubleD: @Akelta, is violence subjective though?
Akelta: @DD fighting, rape, attacking, getting beaten up, getting ambushed, stuff like that
DoubleD: sure, but to them it's maybe not the same as here? different morals
Akelta: @DD they are unapologetically violent, they actually enjoy it.
4bluefaeries: they tend to have the warrior spirit kill or be killed vibe
DoubleD: and here we are talking about our feelings and shit
Heidi: I talk about my feelings to my hellborn... *hides*
darkstarfyre: useful for training army? blood them by going in there and joining in the fighting in lawless areas?
Akelta: @dark many hellborns are in the core army, they make incredible warriors
4bluefaeries: and naked ones at that!!! lol
Anatel: are there any family structures there
Akelta: @Anatel, some of them will have families, one of my Hellborns he has three females who he protects and has children with them and he keeps his family together, but he doesn't know his parents. The royal ones tend to have more of a family structure.
darkstarfyre: So their structure is more like a gangster type , some families but mostly ties through unrelated by blood
Akelta: @dark, it can be, some form gangs and commits violent acts lol, though some families do stick together and some are solo and tend to do it alone
4bluefaeries: do any Hellborns drift away to other hell realms?
Akelta: @Blue yes demons do jump realms and they actually can live all over the place, I know some hellborns have left and live in other realms.
darkstarfyre: are ancients hellbornes worth armies?
Akelta: @Dark, the Hellborns are part of the core army so there are lots of hellborns in the army.
4bluefaeries: some become demon commanders
Akelta: @Blue, lots are demon commanders
darkstarfyre: I mean really old ones like lord satan, that means alone they can whack many others even trained to work together.
Akelta: @Dark there are ancient hellborns who are incredibly powerful
darkstarfyre: do the old ones hold gladatorial competitions. Sure a lot of people like to look.
Akelta: @Dark I know one of the oldest is a very powerful champion Lord A is his initial.
Heidi: how common is it for hellborns that choose to live in other realms to have children with a non-hellborn?
Akelta: @Heidi, I know a few Hellborn hybrids it does happen. I am not sure how common it is but I have seen it
Heidi: @Akelta, does that apply to demons born in the outer realms only? the being born as a blank slate thing I mean
Akelta: @Heidi, yes this is all demons in the outer spiritual realms
luna: In what ways do the children develop and grow? And are they as subject to their environmental circumstances as humans are?
Akelta: @Luna yes great questions, they are, more so then we are here as they really are tabula rasa when they are born up there, unlike us who have a soul of a various age, when you are born up there you really come out just the energies of your soul parent.s so they grow and develop, though there are also personal energies in us that are us even without the experiences we are born of energies that evolve with those experiences... I hope that makes sense
luna: That's really interesting, almost like a living blueprint
Akelta: Yes exactly Luna
Heidi: "just the energies of your soul parent"- it sounds like the predisposition to be like your soul parents is strong then.
Akelta: @Heidi in a way yes, I am apparently very much like my soul father in some ways. Whereas my soul twin sister is very much like my mother.. yes I am a twin LOL
Heidi: @Akelta, I thought you had said before your soul dad is someone who wouldn't pass your screening
Akelta: @Heidi yeah nope
darkstarfyre: how is he like
Akelta: @Dark, he is very powerful and has a dark streak to him
darkstarfyre: the fallen angels mostly resides in which realm?
Akelta: @ Dark, it varies, they kinda were thrust into demon society, so they spread out, and many of them when they became demons took on DDE from different demon species so they vary where they went
luna: I have to ask (you know why hehe), what is the relationship between the hellborn species and the arts? Is it common or do they tend to focus more on militant pursuits?
Akelta: @Luna heheh good question... some are called to the arts and when they are they bring that violent incredible energy into their art and it created for incredilbe focus and passion that is very VERY rare. They also yes are very disciplined in their artistic pursuits
luna: oh yes, the fire they bring is incomparable
Akelta: @luna yes! they incorporate that fire into their art and it is a driving force of incredible passion. Anyone have any questions on the Hellborn realm?
DoubleD: When a new demon that isn't part of a family structure comes around, is there a process of feeling them out or are they destroyed
Akelta: @DD it depends on the realm and the demon, sometimes yes there are fighting that break out, other times they can become part of that group
Heidi: Akelta, is possible to identify what species they got their DDE from or does it become so integrated that you cannot trace it back to the original type?
Akelta: @Heidi I can tell.. Lucifer was noble demon
darkstarfyre: Would be good in sludge clearing? the darkness drage sludgies in and fires burn it. Naturally cleaners.
Akelta: @Dark yes many flames can indeed burn and destroy sludge energy also the high vibrational darkness of many of the spectrums of DDE can destroy sludge energy.
Akelta: ok the Mutilation realm Akelta: Mutilation demons are very interesting demons, they are the definition of seeing the world differently . The Mutilation realm is not in the hell realms, but it is in the outer lower realms, deep in the lower realms, it is very dark and twisted there and look decrepit and decayed
darkstarfyre: do they become families of surgical researchers and medics?
Akelta: @Dark, many of them love medicine and the workings of the body, they also are the reason for the phrase be careful what you wish for, they see mutilation and disease as a beautiful experience that shapes and helps to carve your experience in a beautiful way . So lets say you asked a mutilation demon for more money, they might burn your house down with you in it! cause in their mind, hey you get you money and also beautiful burns and scars to go along with it
4bluefaeries: so they would love my scars?
Akelta: they do love scars and disfigurement, they like to mutilate themselves too hence the name
DoubleD: That's interesting about the wish for, that is very similar to djinn lore
Heidi: I think mutilation demons are my polar opposite
4bluefaeries: well what separates them then from Crypt demons?
Akelta: @blue, mutilation demons do what they do from a place of curiosity and they think they are doing you a favour. Crypt demons do what they do cause they enjoy watching the destructions of someone. Mutilation demons see the growth that can come from disfigurement and overcoming experience.
darkstarfyre: so how are their communties like. similar to the hellborne?
Akelta: @Dark, lol they are very interesting , some of them are in a sense wild
DoubleD: primal?
Akelta: yes very primal, their realm shifts and goes through stages that are very dark and these ones comes out and attack the others in pure primal fashion , its quite incredible and you don't really want to go out in the dark there. Others are very stable and actually some of the most sane demons you would ever talk to, pointing out incredible truths and completely ripping off the mask of illusion of society and showing the raw truth
4bluefaeries: so other then scar and would disease be beautiful to them? like I suffer from acne,but they would see past it and that maybe it can in the long run make me strong?
Akelta: @Blue, they see all forms of disfigurement and disease as things to grow from and as beautiful experiences
4bluefaeries: disease does change a person's character
darkstarfyre: are the sludge entities afraid of them since they actually enjoy what other would feel fear? lol their definition of naked i sure not nude and go woot woot, its skinless and ahs ahs lol.
Akelta: @Dark sludge avoid certain creatures they cannot feed off of, they would probably avoid them , LOL YES they would take their skin off!!
Heidi: *wonders if attacking a sludge creature with a knife, attempting to feed off of it, would keep sludge beings away from her in the future*
luna: Are their bodies wired to take pain differently or is it just a mental shift alone that brings them pleasure?
Akelta: Great question luna! They are fascinating, yes they experience pain in incredible ways and also they can shift their bodies so that they can endure much more mutilation, much more torture and much more disfigurement than most and they can live and endure through things most cannot.
darkstarfyre: I rather fight a hellborne than face them lol.
4bluefaeries: so can they transfer their human companions pain to themselves?
Akelta: @Blue they usually try to help their human companion embrace their pain or they can make it worse as they see it as transformational
Akelta: @Blue, it depends on the demon, the demon might be able to change theri perspective on the disease or what is being experienced. Believe it or not, some have very strong family structures, and one mutilation demoness I know is actually an incredible maternal figure who I go to all the time for advice on being a mom
luna: Ah, thats amazing!
darkstarfyre: their societies is it kingdoms and cities or scattered hamlets and village?
Akelta: @Dark, they tend to be more scattered
darkstarfyre: crypt demon fear to face them a not?
Akelta: LOL some of the primal mutilation demons and the crypt demons do get into altercations , and I know other mutilation demons are not fans of the crypt demons. others find them fascinating
darkstarfyre: since they are close is there a mutiliation crypt hybrid? close as in near each other
Akelta: yes I have met a mutilation Crypt hybrid . I had to think about that one for a sec LOL
4bluefaeries: so it's basically an art form to them as well?
Akelta: it can be, sculpting and working with blood and living parts yes
darkstarfyre: hows the crypt realms like compare to mutilation
4bluefaeries: the crypt is heavy ashy and dark
Akelta: the mutilation realm is very dark and decrepit, whereas the crypt realm you feel like you are walking through zones of rotting flesh and just its a rotten feeling, the mutilation realm is actually more ashy, but quiet and still, like you are being watched. For it's decrepitness though sections of the mutilation realm are very advanced like the areas where the asylums are, the crypt realm is actually more primitive in that way
4bluefaeries: like a heavy mist?
Akelta: its depends on where you are, these realms are massive
Heidi: "quiet and still, like you're being watched". great, I'll never be able to enjoy quiet and still again, lol!
Akelta: AWWW I am sorry Heidi
Heidi: nah, I'm paranoid enough to find quiet and still places creepy anyway
darkstarfyre: so in terms of numbers they are smaller than other species?
Akelta: @Dark, no there are billions of them. like I said these realms are massive
darkstarfyre: crypt its more like an abandoned massive underground tomb then?
Akelta: @Dark that is a good way to describe it
4bluefaeries: I once saw a swamp like place I wonder if I was in one of those realms? so what color of skin are mutilation demons? black and red?
Akelta: I have no idea blue, there are many places in the natural realms too that are swampy, there are literally billions upon billions of realms out there , the skin is more greyish or whiteish
4bluefaeries: needle in a hay stack!!
Akelta: yeah it is easy to get lost LOL it is a good thing our astral bodies are connected to our physical bodies, also I have great demon guides
Heidi: Akelta, how exactly do you manage to map the places you visit so that you know what is near what?
Akelta: @Heidi, lol I have thousands and thousand of peices of paper with diagrams and maps and energy vibrations and over the years I have created a 2D model that can assist me with nagivating a multidimentional madness, LOL time and patience
4bluefaeries: I have done astral but I dunno how I did it and where I end up most of the time ***Waits to see the madness,lol****
Heidi: I'm wondering more about how you figure out where a place is compared to others when you first visit
Akelta: @Heidi, vibrations I would imaging it would be like the first peopel who sailed around the earth mapping it
darkstarfyre: Qns do you have your own realm to rule like eilana ?
Akelta: Eilana yes has her own realm. I have a place I call home in the spiritual world that yes would be like my own realm. Eilana has a very good ability to control her astral travel ability. I actually talking to her learned a few new tricks
4bluefaeries: ok this might be a very stupid question but are there any race of demons that lay eggs? instead of birth like a human?
Akelta: @Blue, yes but I dont know a lot about them
4bluefaeries: like fish I wonder in the deep realms like Lord Leviathan
Anatel: leviathan doesnt lay eggs
4bluefaeries: no not him but the females?
darkstarfyre: Does dark divinity spawn demons with no direct demon parents?
Akelta: @Dark yes some demons are the start of their line
Heidi: really??? Ok, that is weird. And kinda lonely.
Akelta: yes, Satan has no parents
darkstarfyre: how does he survive and know what he does?
Akelta: @Dark, that would be a question for him.
Heidi: ok, I was about to say "yeah, but Satan is truly ancient!". Then my mind said "yeah, but Satan was once young too. Doesn't he have a right to miss the parents he didn't have? I'm a hopeless case...
Akelta: I really dont know how it worked at the start of their line. Satan might make up for it by being there for his kids .
4bluefaeries: how old is lord Satan ,? has he ever shared that with you Akelta,? and if you do know would it be ok to share with his permission of course
Akelta: @Blue, time in this realm is different, and time out there has shifted and changed so I dont think even he knows
Heidi: It makes me wonder if the ones like Satan who weren't created by parents like the rest of us know a bit more about the origins of the world, or if they're as clueless as the rest of us ultimately are. I'm hoping the former is true, I'm dreading the latter is the truth though.
Akelta: @Heidi that is a good question, it would be a good one to ask him
DoubleD: Agreed, I would imagine he knows quite a bit
Akelta: @DD yes and talking to him is incredible and always eye opening
darkstarfyre: Are there lots of specialists schools in the demon realms? or a few?
Akelta: @Dark there are a lot of areas of exploration and learning out there, I am sure it is countless the areas you can learn.
Heidi: I often get inspiration by reading the listings, some demons I've seen are experts in things I never even imagined someone would have thought of!
Akelta: yeah it is cool all the different skills and specialities that they have
darkstarfyre: do they craft thoughtforms
Akelta: @Dark they create various beings they are more advanced than thought forms
Heidi: general question: there are demons born by two parents, there are demons just being created without parental involvement, we've seen at least one demon having 3 parents. Are there demons with one parent? Being born from one parent I mean
darkstarfyre: cloning?
Heidi: no, more like giving birth or creating a new being, a child of yours that is unique, but without a second person involved
Akelta: @Heidi, it doesnt just have to be two , there can be more, one parents I am sure it happens
Heidi: yeah, I remember the guy who was the son of satan and one of his wives plus a mutilation demon
WanderingOracle: Which spirits created the Noble, Hellborn and Mutilation realms respectively?
Akelta: @Oracle they did evolve and grow over time the various realms
Heidi: so it would be possible for me not to have a mother?
Akelta: @heidi it could be possible
4bluefaeries: do you guys think you can share what you offer them and what they like to be offered?
Akelta: there are various posts I have seen in the forums where we talk about what we give for offerings
darkstarfyre: energy offerings
4bluefaeries: yes but now I know no alcohol for lord Satan,lol
darkstarfyre: unique and personal and most of all accessible anytime anywhere
luna: I think it's important to be able to find for yourself things that resonate both with your personal energy and the energy of said demon acting like a bridge between the two of you
BIG THANKYOU TO THE LOVELY LUNA!!!!!!! 
