Akelta: Ok we are going to start with Discussing Inner spiritual world and Outer Spiritual world demons. There are many demon species out there. Some are true form demons from the outer spiritual world. These are the ones offered here on this site, but there are many others that reside in the inner spiritual world.
Inanna: why do you call them true form demons?
Akelta: Inner spiritual world demons they are powerful to and have a vast amount of abilities, but they are being who can be incarnated. Like a being from the outer spiritual world can choose be in incarnated as an inner spiritual world demon for the life of that demon.
Kitsune: I find outer world beings have a different quality to their energies
Akelta: Demons in the outer spiritual world are in their core element. They are themselves, they arn't incarnated as anything. Like angels from the outer spiritual world too. That is why I call them true form, because at their core they are a demon. The best example I can give is us as humans we are here, on this world, and we have DNA and that DNA makes up the blueprint of the vessel we have. Our true form self technically is bound to the vessel and we live our lifehere.
Inanna: a demon born on earth might not have horns?
Akelta: @ Inanna,yes actually, depending on the species. and the defeinition of demon.
SikruaSuncat: Can a demon be born into a human body?
Heidi: Yes.
Akelta: People who have DDE are demons in their true form, there are people walking around who have angelic energies, Fae energies, Vampire energies, there are lots of different ones.
Inanna: you mean like we might be demons trying to "live" as humans?
Akelta: @ Inanna, technically what happens is when they reincarnate, they do take a human vessel and live as humans.
darkstarfyre: so we may be born as a inner world demon before?
Akelta: @ Dark, depending on where you reincarnate yes
SikruaSuncat: I was told the human body can host a great variety of spirits.
Akelta: @ suncat, from my experience I am me, I have only my highself who is my spirit, but she is the compilation of lifetimes, past lifes, ancestors, we are complex beings.
Kitsune: Can you have DDE in your inner self from past lives or bloodline and not from your true self?
Heidi: what do you mean by "inner self" Kitsune?
Akelta: @ Kitsune, no DDE is an outer spiritual world energy frewuency, the demons who are inner spiritual world feel different.
luna: and the relations between true form demons and 'human' incarnate demons... do they 'see', assist us, as human, as our true self, as both..?
Akelta: @ Luna, yes they can I have had many people tell me that demons they have gotten remember them and they have a connection to them from their true form self and that is becase of the connection to who you are as your true form self and the demon. They see us as both, we are the human version of what we are back home, it is quite laytered but fascinating to explore.
Cka75: I can attest to that, Akelta. Past and continual connections.
Akelta: @Ck - yes you have had some amazing connections!
SikruaSuncat: How long do demons live?
Akelta: @suncat, in the inner spiritual world it varies on the species, outer spiritual world demons are immortal
DemonicSpirits: If someone have past life brother demon , does that mean the person also was a demon in the previous life ?
Akelta: @DS - it depends, past lives are very complex you have to take each past life individually.
Kitsune: @AKelta, what other beings have you encountered besides demons from the outer realms?
Akelta: @Kitsune - Dragons, Fae, Angels, Elves, there are many, anything you can think of really.
Inanna: why would demons from the outer realms choose to become a companion for a human instead of simply incarnating into the inner realm as a human themselves to experience whatever they're after?
Heidi: I suppose because they want a human friend, not a life as humans. Like, I like cats, but I don't want to be one. I just like playing with them, lol
Cka75: Inanna.... If I could go find my true form self and slap the shit outta myself for making that decision... Lol... Maybe the others were wiser.
SikruaSuncat: Because they give up a lot of demonic powers as a human!
Akelta: @ Inanna - Different experiences Inanna , sometimes they come forth to help humans to learn and grow, sometimes they want the experience of living in the energies here as they are with a human companion. Sometimes they miss their friend from back home and want to join them. Choosing to come here, it mostly from what I can tell is for the experience. LOL
DemonicSpirits: Does the son of dark lord, are they immortal? so they cannot die ?
Akelta: yes they are immortal
darkstarfyre: are there outer world humans?
Akelta: that is a good question darkstar. I have actually been looking into that one. I'll let you know when I figure out how that works
luna: Do you ever find a case where the energies within the human vessel are just extensions from the true form, where this true form still 'resides' in the outer world to a certain extent?
Akelta: @ Luna - From what I have seen we have to lower our vibration to an extent to live here in these bodies, so we are basically energetically reduced to a place we can take over the human vessel, we still are technically there, and here, but in an altered state. Its hard to describe.
DemonicSpirits: would that possible if a human transform became a demon? Such as make a pact with Dark Lord or Help from Dark Lord Son to grant the human became Immortal demon after the human die ?
Akelta: @DS, no pacts are not made like that, pacts are basically making like a working contract with a demon to help them here. In the after life you can go on to the next life or return to your core self.
Heidi: Technically, your true form can be infused with demonic energy, but from what I know it's extremely painful and takes a very long time.
Akelta: yes in the case of the Fallen angels, and that has to be done in the outer spiritual world, and will span a longer time then we have on earth in these lives
Heidi: Like, thousands of years I mean.
Akelta: yes exactly, and most people dont go for that.
luna: Truly I believe any matter of transforming into anything else in the true form is irrelevant when one reaches that state of embodiment, it's natural to romanticize one 'form', 'energy', over the other but they all have their place..
Kitsune: I'm curious about BFMs
darkstarfyre: what about black flame initiation? how long does it take?
Akelta: The black Flame masters is a journey thrugh the void a transformative journey, it transforms you by fusing you with the void energies and the black flame but it doesnt change who you are.
Kitsune: I have some memories of that, but it's more energy imprints that images
Heidi: But why would one want to go through that? You can always chose to incarnate as whatever being you're interested in.
Akelta: It again takes thousands of years and is something done in the outer spiritual world. Exactly Heidi, there usually is a deep calling or neccessity when people embark on these journeys, really the best thing to do is to be true to yourself and who you are.
darkstarfyre: what about shimmer specialist?
Akelta: @dark, the shimmers are spectrals who have a advanced training process. there are many different paths you can walk, and all these specialist they take a great deal of time to learn their path. When you are immortal and have eternity you dont rush things.
Heidi: someone remind me what shimmer specialists are please
Anatel: oh those are the corrosion eaters heidi
Akelta: @ Heidi - Spectral demons who can consume sludge energy and purify auras
luna: i believe a demonic who specializes in a particular method of sludge cleansing
Heidi: Ah, ok. I was wondering, cause those were on my mind a lot these last few days but I couldn't remember the name.
DemonicSpirits: Was that possible if a demon lend his sword to his companion ?
Akelta: @DS - what do mean?
DemonicSpirits: Something like a Astral Weapon
Akelta: @DS - in the astal you can pick up items, so if the demon wanted to let you touch its sword. The astral world you can pick things up and walk around. I have seen Demon fighting matches with swords when astral. There is a lot to do and see.
Inanna: Akelta, is it ok to ask you about the black court?
Akelta: @Inanna you can but I dont know a lot about them as I am not a member
Inanna: has Satan's court ever mentioned them to you?
darkstarfyre: how different is black courts energetic imprint compared to core demons?
Akelta: @Inanna - Satan told me not to pursue exploration of them. That was all he said about them @Dark Star - they feel more corrosive, the demonic energies have a different vibration to them.
Heidi: I was told the same, though I had no intention to anyway
Inanna: as in it's dangerous for you?
Akelta: @ Inanna - they never really called to me and I didnt see the point and when I asked him he was like yeah just dont go there. I go where I am called
Cka75: Their site has a certain vibration and feel to it.
Inanna: their sigils are very beautiful
Heidi: To my (admitedly way less refined than Akelta's) senses they feel BA
darkstarfyre: corrosive as in sludges?
Cka75: That's how it feels to me, Heidi.
Kitsune: quick question: any good deep grounding advice? I feel too overloaded to groud the way I normally do
Heidi: @Kitsune, slap yourself.
SikruaSuncat: Hug a tree
luna: play in dirt..
Nyctophilia Raven: @Kitsune - do you have any of the following stones: black tourmaline, smokey quartz, or shungite?
Kitsune: yes
Heidi: Then eat something. Or take a shit.
Anatel: walk around barefoot outside and shake the excess energy out of your hands, then drink water
Akelta: @ Kitsune we actually have a resource now for that! we have a new section of the forum its a blog and we are listing resources there to help with foundational skills. This section has ebooks on the foundational skills you can all download http://satanandsuns.com/blog/satan-and- ... oundation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Nyctophilia Raven: Or any houseplants. Meditate with the stones... use their very grounded energies to ground your own. And.. yes, play in the dirt. Emersing your hands in soil will also help.
Akelta: Those are all good grounding activities
darkstarfyre: akelta is black court similar to sludge entities?
Akelta: About the black courtInever explored them, their energies feel corrisive and I never went there.
Anatel: everyone ive known that has actually joined the black court and practiced their teachings eventually went nuts. not sayin thats the case for all who join, just what ive observed. usually they go very depressed and suicidal
Akelta: Yeah corrisive energies usually corrode the mind and lead to depression and sadness
SikruaSuncat: Had enough of that crap! Depression SUCKS.
DemonicSpirits: What Appearance does Lord Satan have? Are they always shape shift to different form to different people?
Akelta: @DS - Lord Satan has a very particular appearance to me, his feature that I always notice is him solid black eyes.
DemonicSpirits: With a huge horn and huge body?
Cka75: Lots of us have a huge horn, DS... Doesn't make me Satan! Lmao
Akelta: He has large horns, and he has a nice body, toned and strong.
SikruaSuncat: Hoonry. Ggot it.
Akelta: LOL!!
Phlan: I have an average horn nothing to impressive but it does the trick
SikruaSuncat: (horny)
Heidi: Guys, there's a difference between horned and horny. Just sayin'...
SikruaSuncat: Size DOES matter!
Heidi: Well, we can always ask about demonic horns. Of both kinds.
darkstarfyre: hi may i know whats the benefits of chanting demonic enns?
Akelta: @dark, great question, there are lots of benefits the enns vibrate at the frequency of the demon, so chanting their enn can bring you into alignment with the demon and allow you to connect with them better, and understand their mindset and way of thinking
Heidi: I used enns like mantras for specific deities. To call them, solidify their presence and enhance their influence in my life.
darkstarfyre: enns are mantras actually thats how i see it
darkstarfyre: lol the horn between legs
Heidi: I have a weird question: is there any kind of demons that have more antler-like horns than the usual ones?
Akelta: @ Heidi, not so much demons, but various other creatures from the natural realms have antler type horns.
Heidi: Ah, I see. I was thinking maybe some other kind from the natural realms got mixed with demons.
Inanna: is it common to have 4 horns?
Akelta: @Inanna - I have seen demons with four horns. It varies though more Hellborns I have seen with 4 horns
SikruaSuncat: Are demon horns...sensitive?
Cka75: Demonic horns is an interesting topic. My companions have only shown me theirs on a handful of occasions.
Akelta: @CK - I always see horns on them they are really beautiful and I love looking at them. but yeah sometimes they are hidden for various reasons.
Nyctophilia Raven: @Cka - they don't show them often because... humans through the ages have always had odd reactions to the way they truly appear... because they are shapeshifters, mutable, they choose shapes for their Chosen that are easier on the mind... and the eyes of course. Lol
Phlan: why would they hide them? I feel like having horns would be super sweet
Nyctophilia Raven: Showing their horns is a sign of respect to you. I always see them as they are... but... that's for different reasons than Akelta. For her, it's respect. For me, it's something else. You also need to have a certain level of vibration to see them in their true form all the time.
Cka75: Interesting Akelta, I am sure they regularly show them to you - I don't know why, but that's only been demonstrated a couple of times in my experience. Maybe because I haven't asked? Who knows. Tails, on the other hand, seem to be revealed much more often.
Heidi: I have never seen a demon's tail!
Kitsune: I have a friend who can see my horns
Heidi: Ok, imps don't count.
Inanna: what are the tails for?
Heidi: @Inanna, scratching your back maybe
DemonicSpirits: How about your tails Kit? does your friends saw it too? XD
Kitsune: yes. my tail is really cool. It's got a stinger at the tip
outgast: like a sting ray
Kitsune: more scorpion
Akelta: Demon tails! honestly I love their tails though they can be so cheeky with them
darkstarfyre: lol i would love to disturb their tails
Nyctophilia Raven: lol @ Akelta... yeah. Tails are... um... fun. lol
Akelta: @Nycto they really are!! Hehhe
Cka75: Tails can get.. Interesting. Lol
Kitsune: it's also super long
SikruaSuncat: Tentacles are sexy too
Phlan: Oh tentacles
luna: sexy... lol, or fun to sex? i can't ever recall looking at tentacles and being turned on.. just kinda.. oh that'd feel nice inside of me
Heidi: I'm more of a wings person myself
Cka75: Wings can get in the way... Lol
DemonicSpirits: Why Some demons doesn't have wings, but some do?
SikruaSuncat: tentacles are better than straps...or paddles
Akelta: @Ds - most outer spiritual world demons have wings. it is the inner spirtutal ones that dont
Nyctophilia Raven: @Suncat - because ropes don't tickle and tantalize while they bind you. Lol
SikruaSuncat: and the suckers!
Kitsune: wings are interesting in the way they can fold up and disappear
Nyctophilia Raven: *nods* Totally the suckers. mmmph. I drank from a chaos demon once... he looked like he was descended from the Elders... it was... interesting.
luna: I have a quick question.. when the soul aura is 'unlocking', the higher aspects coming to energetically reveal themselves within the human vessel, does it open up/reveal deeper connections with those who we know in true form, whether demon lords or companions, is there ever something that shifts or is that essence within us always recognized in its totality by them? I imagine it to be a perceptual shift on the part of the human mind that opens up to these 'new' strands of energies.. but I am curious of your input.
Akelta: @ Luna - yes it can as you align more with your core self you can align with those you know back home.
