
Anyone else experience this?
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Coming from a strictly RHP experience where spirit communication was very feared has given me interesting perspectives on things now that I'm on the LHP. Does anyone else ever find themselves questioning their sanity when communicating with your DCs, the Dark Lords, etc? I feel like one minute I'm having good conversation and the next I'm thinking "Am I insane? What if I'm talking to nobody?" It's not an all the time thing, but I just had to put this out there. 

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Same here, mostly in the beginning, now I'm just going with it but sometimes, I take a step back and question things, looking at things from different 'lenses'.
I don't think It's necessarily a bad thing to question reality sometimes lol.

I don't think It's necessarily a bad thing to question reality sometimes lol.

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We're all mad here! Yaaaay!!!
On a more serious note, sometimes! But the longer you're in it and the more experiences you have that you know you had and can't explain, the more real you actually realize it is ^^ so don't worry, you're not crazy, we just sound crazy to the uninitiated haha!

On a more serious note, sometimes! But the longer you're in it and the more experiences you have that you know you had and can't explain, the more real you actually realize it is ^^ so don't worry, you're not crazy, we just sound crazy to the uninitiated haha!
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rhp some o they communicate too
and question is good so not get trick

and question is good so not get trick

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Yeah, but for me it's not a RHP sort of questioning, it's more of a nihilistic/materialist sort of questioning. "Am I crazy" has definitely been something I've seriously asked myself during this process (which for me has only been slightly more than two months) and sometimes I've really legitimately thought of myself as just crazy. I don't rule out that I'm crazy even now, but I don't put it in the forefront of my mind if it's not a useful thought. I'm doing what I can to minimize/elimitate those kinds of feelings in moments of communication, because they're just not useful at those times. This doesn't mean I want to dismiss my doubts entirely, it just means that I want to confine them to the sort of time and place where they are a healthy alternate valid perspective for moving forward rather than a roadblock to what I'm doing.HurricanesGirl20 wrote:Coming from a strictly RHP experience where spirit communication was very feared has given me interesting perspectives on things now that I'm on the LHP. Does anyone else ever find themselves questioning their sanity when communicating with your DCs, the Dark Lords, etc? I feel like one minute I'm having good conversation and the next I'm thinking "Am I insane? What if I'm talking to nobody?" It's not an all the time thing, but I just had to put this out there.
But here's the kicker that's kept me here thus far: What if I am talking to nobody? Well, let's examine that. Does talking to "nobody" give better results than not talking to "nobody"? Does talking to "nobody" give me perspectives I didn't have before that I can use to broaden myself? Does it feel like "nothing"? For me, the answer to this is that even if I am just going through the motions and babbling inside my own head, it's worth doing, at least in my case personally.
What exactly spirits are is hard to put a finger on. I don't put them in the same "reality" category as physical objects. (Though i put physical objects in the same "reality" category as spirits. Meh. Hard to explain, but sort of like a rectangle may not be a square, but a square is a rectangle.) My first impulse is to say "Spirits are produced by the connections between minds expressing ideas, and have taken on a life of their own in the game of Telephone that we humans play with one another." but... as I am looking into cause and effect and effects causing themselves, I have to say that I can't tell where the Ouroboros ends and begins... *Holds my poor head*
Regardless, I hope that you become more comfortable as you gain experience, no matter what perspective(s) you stick with.
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Same here. lol.Cerber wrote:I think I'm more often start questioning my sanity when trying to communicate with humans..
Maybe it will be easier to communicate with spirits & demons than humans overall.

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When first started spirit keeping I had the same thoughts but now over many years it is second nature to me just doing my morning greetings and sharing anything that’s on my mind . I mostly share quietly through my thoughts. 

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Thank you for this post, OP. I was actually considering asking the same thing since I'm also somewhat starting out, I'm always paranoid that "talking to spirits" is just talking to myself or the "visions" I might have seen are just my vivid imagination, etc. To me, the easiest way to know perhaps you're not just talking to yourself is if there's some sort of physical manifestation of your conversation partner.
For example, and I hope I didn't post this already so I'll leave out details, there was one experience where I tried to communicate with a certain entity despite having "not developed my psychic faculties" so to speak (and when I say "tried to communicate" I literally mean I was alone, surrounded by candles in my wee apartment talking full volume). In short, I received no believable response and I was ready to throw in the towel with this whole occult thing - for the night or for good; I thought I'd been making a right fool of myself. Then, a pamphlet came flying off my bookshelf. If it was done by the entity, the pamphlet concisely conveyed that I needed to develop my psychic abilities before I could really speak to/communicate with them. This was my only experience so far in which I can confidently know I wasn't crazy and talking to myself.
For example, and I hope I didn't post this already so I'll leave out details, there was one experience where I tried to communicate with a certain entity despite having "not developed my psychic faculties" so to speak (and when I say "tried to communicate" I literally mean I was alone, surrounded by candles in my wee apartment talking full volume). In short, I received no believable response and I was ready to throw in the towel with this whole occult thing - for the night or for good; I thought I'd been making a right fool of myself. Then, a pamphlet came flying off my bookshelf. If it was done by the entity, the pamphlet concisely conveyed that I needed to develop my psychic abilities before I could really speak to/communicate with them. This was my only experience so far in which I can confidently know I wasn't crazy and talking to myself.
Interesting you brought this up. I had a similar thought that maybe when some people claim communicating with spirits made them "smarter" or more introspective, they simply made themselves that way since, I'm sure you know, studies have long suggested a correlation between more "intelligent" or "introspective" people and talking to oneself. Recently, there's been more investigation into why we talk to ourselves and the benefits of these inner dialogues. I know you didn't say this, but just putting it out there: I'd be hard pressed to believe all these experiences are legitimate "spirit work" as much as I'd be hard pressed to believe all these experiences are completely "inside one's head".Chrysopaelian wrote: But here's the kicker that's kept me here thus far: What if I am talking to nobody? Well, let's examine that. Does talking to "nobody" give better results than not talking to "nobody"? Does talking to "nobody" give me perspectives I didn't have before that I can use to broaden myself? Does it feel like "nothing"? For me, the answer to this is that even if I am just going through the motions and babbling inside my own head, it's worth doing, at least in my case personally.
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Thanks very much for the article! I've been doing some of this "Putting negative beliefs on trial" thing lately. One that I recently pronounced sentence on was my physical appearance. I decided that I'm good looking no matter what my physical features are, how the light hits me, what I happen to be wearing or not wearing, etc. Later that day a friend showed me a picture of us and asked if it was ok to post it to facebook, checking to make sure I didn't think it depicted me in an unflattering way. I told her that I had already decided that I look good no matter what, so she can feel free to post any pictures of me that she wants. She seemed kind of shocked about that, and that was kind of humorous for me at the time. It's not really as simple as it sounds, though... or maybe it is? But it took me quite a long time to get to the point where I really meant it, and now I'm there.judiss wrote:
Interesting you brought this up. I had a similar thought that maybe when some people claim communicating with spirits made them "smarter" or more introspective, they simply made themselves that way since, I'm sure you know, studies have long suggested a correlation between more "intelligent" or "introspective" people and talking to oneself. Recently, there's been more investigation into why we talk to ourselves and the benefits of these inner dialogues. I know you didn't say this, but just putting it out there: I'd be hard pressed to believe all these experiences are legitimate "spirit work" as much as I'd be hard pressed to believe all these experiences are completely "inside one's head".
I am working on something along similar lines when it comes to wealth, with a few more steps in between. We'll see how that goes.
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