
Struggling with fear
Moderator: Akelta
- x2385
- Posts: 3
- Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:14 am
- Patron Deities: Mammon, Satan, Lucifer, Isis, Osiris, Lilith, Hekate, Paimon, Oshun
- Your favourite Demon?: Mammon, Satan, & Lucifer
- Number of Demon Familiars: 2
- Location: Chicago
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
So I’m not sure what it is that is causing this but every time I start to meditate with one of the dark lords ends ( specifically Satan this time) I become overwhelmed but fear and start seeing horrific things in the astral almost like I’m being pushed away from meditating with them with some scare tactic. Has anyone else ever had this issue? I’m kinda lost on what to do... I can feel many thing with my third eye & using my satanic orb but nothing really comes in clearly 

-
- Posts: 264
- Joined: Sat May 12, 2018 5:19 pm
- Your favourite Demon?: Tezrian
- Number of Demon Familiars: 3
- Location: Northeast US
- Has thanked: 72 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
I think you need to sit with your fear before you meditate with the dark lords. It is not necessarily that they are scary persay, but that you expect them to be so. So you need to find within you what you are expecting and face those things. Convince yourself out of them in a way you think you'll accept. For me it was helpful to look in the goetia and read about how demons are masters of arts and sciences and they teach these things to us.
I have a different sort of fear problem which is I'm afraid to use my psychic senses or feel and experience them fully and so I'll push away or procrastinate. So that's sort of my current version of it.
Looking through the goetia helped me decide to approach the dark lords and explore all this.
I have a different sort of fear problem which is I'm afraid to use my psychic senses or feel and experience them fully and so I'll push away or procrastinate. So that's sort of my current version of it.
Looking through the goetia helped me decide to approach the dark lords and explore all this.
- user2774653b
- Posts: 283
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:20 am
- Patron Deities: Emperor of the Void Abyssal Demon Lord Leviathan
- Has thanked: 65 times
- Been thanked: 33 times
Ok. First, can you tell me what have attracted you to demons? Why you begun to communicate/connect with them? Were you attracted to the dark side whole your life on some way, or it's just temporary rebellion against society rules and mainstream culture? Think deep about it...x2385 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:33 amSo I’m not sure what it is that is causing this but every time I start to meditate with one of the dark lords ends ( specifically Satan this time) I become overwhelmed but fear and start seeing horrific things in the astral almost like I’m being pushed away from meditating with them with some scare tactic. Has anyone else ever had this issue? I’m kinda lost on what to do... I can feel many thing with my third eye & using my satanic orb but nothing really comes in clearly![]()
If this is what you have been dragged to whole your life then probably you have to get rid of the influence of brainwash about "bad demons", so it will make your future experiences with them much more shiny. But if some sort of "empty" rebellion takes place here, it's possible then they don't even want to communicate with you and push you away.
We're walking in the air
We're floating in the moonlit sky
The people far below are sleeping as we fly
I'm holding very tight
I'm riding in the midnight blue
I'm finding I can fly so high above with you...
We're floating in the moonlit sky
The people far below are sleeping as we fly
I'm holding very tight
I'm riding in the midnight blue
I'm finding I can fly so high above with you...
- Alys-RaccoonReadings
- Posts: 141
- Joined: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:43 pm
- Patron Deities: Aset, Demeter
- Has thanked: 84 times
- Been thanked: 93 times
100% this. And on top of your expectation coloring what your experience will be, that's a great thing to do with any emotion that arises in meditation. You can't let go of any of them effectively if you don't sit with them and honor/process them first.
- wanderer
- Posts: 151
- Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:10 pm
- Patron Deities: Astaroth, Beelzebub
- Your favourite Demon?: companions
- Number of Demon Familiars: 6
- Has thanked: 28 times
- Been thanked: 23 times
Try to see if your fear is natural fear or programmed fear. Doing the thing you are scared of will help you with both
Natural fear - At the end of the day, they are incredibly powerful beings. I still feel fear when I reach out to a being of such magnitude, despite having done it before and not dying. Especially when they answer and a huge strange and dark presence appears near me. I figure the fear/awe in itself is not a bad thing, as long as it doesn't stop you from taking action. So if you reach out to Satan and he answers and there's an easily noticeable presence, remember its natural to be a little shaken and stay focused.
Programmed fear - You've been taught Satan is bad and is going to torture you. Now you meet him, remember that and get paralyzed. This is programmed not a natural fear. Meeting Satan and surviving the encounter may be a good way to get over this fear. As cliche, as it sounds, doing what your scared of and facing your fears, does help release their hold over you.
Natural fear - At the end of the day, they are incredibly powerful beings. I still feel fear when I reach out to a being of such magnitude, despite having done it before and not dying. Especially when they answer and a huge strange and dark presence appears near me. I figure the fear/awe in itself is not a bad thing, as long as it doesn't stop you from taking action. So if you reach out to Satan and he answers and there's an easily noticeable presence, remember its natural to be a little shaken and stay focused.
Programmed fear - You've been taught Satan is bad and is going to torture you. Now you meet him, remember that and get paralyzed. This is programmed not a natural fear. Meeting Satan and surviving the encounter may be a good way to get over this fear. As cliche, as it sounds, doing what your scared of and facing your fears, does help release their hold over you.
“If the path before you is clear, you’re probably on someone else’s.” – Joseph Campbell
- x2385
- Posts: 3
- Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:14 am
- Patron Deities: Mammon, Satan, Lucifer, Isis, Osiris, Lilith, Hekate, Paimon, Oshun
- Your favourite Demon?: Mammon, Satan, & Lucifer
- Number of Demon Familiars: 2
- Location: Chicago
- Has thanked: 2 times
- Been thanked: 2 times
- Contact:
@wanderer: I think it’s is programmed fear, my family is catholic and very pragmatic about it. I will try to meditate, recognize and let go of this fear.
@ Dimension: growing up I was always attracted to entities like Satan and Lucifer even being in a catholic family. Ive distanced myself from the catholic faith years ago to explore my interests in these deities.
Thanks everyone for the replies! I will sit with my fear and move past this.
@ Dimension: growing up I was always attracted to entities like Satan and Lucifer even being in a catholic family. Ive distanced myself from the catholic faith years ago to explore my interests in these deities.
Thanks everyone for the replies! I will sit with my fear and move past this.
- user2774653b
- Posts: 283
- Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:20 am
- Patron Deities: Emperor of the Void Abyssal Demon Lord Leviathan
- Has thanked: 65 times
- Been thanked: 33 times
That's comforting to hear!x2385 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:58 pm
@ Dimension: growing up I was always attracted to entities like Satan and Lucifer even being in a catholic family. Ive distanced myself from the catholic faith years ago to explore my interests in these deities.
Thanks everyone for the replies! I will sit with my fear and move past this.
About natural fear and programmed one - what x2385 was about - i think that once when you get rid of the programmed one, your natural one will fade too. The reason is - you don't need to be afraid of somebody who doesn't want to hurt you then just teach and be your friend even if he looks like a horror movie half dead monster with skin turned upside down! If you show respect to these big dark fogy entities behind your back in the dark (if you see them like that too of course) you have really nothing to be scared of.
We're walking in the air
We're floating in the moonlit sky
The people far below are sleeping as we fly
I'm holding very tight
I'm riding in the midnight blue
I'm finding I can fly so high above with you...
We're floating in the moonlit sky
The people far below are sleeping as we fly
I'm holding very tight
I'm riding in the midnight blue
I'm finding I can fly so high above with you...